You could be Liz Greene's PA Kirk with this rational ,common sense, real world, fused with intelligence perspective towards this interesting and potentially valuable pastime. I have a similar lens and take the view that if we just leave this divorced from reality astrology unchallenged then we are l...

I don't know exactly what Theo meant by "negative, bad people", Billy, and he may indeed include humanistic astrologers in that category - but I didn't see anything in his post that compels that interpretation. In general fruitful discussion has to start by establishing some common ground...

Concerning my perspective of the global Saturn/Uranus opposition, one of the easiest ways to not fall under the more unfavorable tone of this opposition is to cooperate with others of common positive interests, and to leave behind those who seek mischief, and harbor ill-will towards others. One of ...

Papretis, quote]Billy, The influence of the signs comes from several things of which only one is the element. The Air signs are more or less ruled by Earth planets: Gemini is ruled by Mercury which most ancient authors see as cold and dry; Aquarius is ruled by Saturn, definitely a cold and dry plane...

Billy when I read things like this I think you're going out of your way to miss the point. The book is supposed to be about traditional astrology. There is nothing traditional about Chiron, therefore, when it introduced Chiron, it lost its way. If he was writing about modern astrology, it would be ...

Tom, In short, my journey through that field is probably typical of people who ended up where I am. No one starts with traditional astrology. In fact, to my knowledge, there is no contemporary book on traditional astrology that is intended for absolute beginners. One Kevin Burk wrote something along...

Jung writes about the four functions: typology. Greenbaum writes about the four humors: temperament. Again, apples and oranges. And again, in temperament theory, the qualities of hot and dry (which generate fire) are not opposed to the qualities of hot and moist (which generate air). But it's apple...

Huh? My remark vis-?-vis "an investment in a fixed idea" was made with regard to the tenacity with which "late modern" astrologers defend ideas that are actually misinterpretations of traditional astrological concepts. No matter what Jung or Greene et al. state to the contrary, ...

Tom, Ignore the Mars and Saturn this was just me cutting and pasting the original Greenbaum article. We all seem to be getting different results using this system? I had the ascendent almuten as Jupiter, (triplicity and term,) why the moon? Doesn?t this already get 2 points for being in its sign? I ...

HI ANDREW You'll have to explain to me why seeing a person through a? type? lens is more fixed than through a ?traditional? temperament lens. I think I made the point earlier that a Psychological Astrologer wouldn?t be likely to expend much time working out someone?s type before any consultation as ...

Hi Papretis. You?re right I had the wrong chart for Mitchell. Lazy of me as I had seen this chart before and thought it looked odd. I was using Pisces rising before. No idea what happened with Kepler something to do with wartime I think? I obtained this system from an Internet site a while ago; Gree...

What possible difference could it make if Culpeper's definitions are the same as Jung's? They aren't going to be the same as Jung's for a number of reasons. In the same way if this type of Personality assessment is retained in 200yrs time Jung is probably going to seem quite antiquated, redundant a...