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Aries

Quick comment. I don't see Aries or 1st House as external but as "approaching" toward the external, collective, 12th house (ITS): The Ascendant. Of course, after a long journey from the confrontation of the opposite, 7th house. That's the beauty of the astrological wheel. It's contiguous a...

AQAL and Astrology

Sorry for the gap in my post. I had plans to actually delineate my view of how AQAL and Astrology might integrate. Just don't have time to do that right now. So, I want to share with the group my basic idea and see if we can collaborate. My basic interest is how both system might address the issue o...

Ken Wilber vrs Astrology

Mark: Reference to what I said: All ancient religions have always fallen short of the mystics' understanding of the original insights/experience about consciousness. What do I mean from that? First, I did not say ancient Religions are "incompatible" with conscious experiences or changes. T...

Ken Wilber - Astrology

Bill, thanks for the references on Ken Wilber's perspective. I guess I was googling AQAL/Astrology when I should have been googling Ken Wilber/Astrology. Found much discussion "about" him... nothing yet from him. Yes, the argument is very ancient due to the lack of understanding of the pos...

AQAL and Astrology and Spiral Dynamics

Keren, thank you for your insight. I agree. The principle of Integral is to include diversity, not rise past it. I think astrology as a whole system is highly evolved in wisdom and complexity. I view AQAL as Ken Wilber's objective to simplify Complexity of accumulative knowledge and wisdom and, most...

TOE

Ah! Yes! TOE: Theory of Everything... Which is a clue. TOE or the parts of our anatomy that touch the ground, the Embodiment, the Make Manifest, resulting in the State of Being... for an individual. For society, Law and Order: BLUE. This is not the time for even a higher order of BLUE. These are tim...

Ken Wilber, Astrology, Spiral Dynamics

Good stuff! I'll need to time to get my mind around it. I'll digest your blog. I, too, tried many rotations and inversals (?) and only got confused. (Years ago, I tried flipping the natal chart to test the idea of perspectives from the self to perspectives from others. Example, how do others "s...

Astrology, Integral (Ken Wilber) , Gestalt

AnneMieke, I tried to post this to you personally but not sure it made it. So, here it is for the thread. I have been obsessed with relating AQAL into astrological and Gestalt process. I have search extensively for astrological references in the Integral, Wilber, Spiral Dynamics but haven't found mu...

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