To blindly apply 'tradition' without fully looking into all implications, that's like pouring fuel into the radiator and hoping that the car will drive. Throughout this thread there has been insinuations from Danny that anyone who takes the trouble to understand how this has been taught traditional...

I can't go along with all your statements because I think your reasoning has steps in it that I think aren't right in my view. For instance, what you said about clockwise and anticlockwise, and taking those terms down from the observed 3D sky to a flat map, I just don't think you're right in the wa...

So it's obvious that the Ascendant is moist, it's the coldness of water which is warmed by the change of quadrant, but both are moist. And this is the same order Ptolemy uses: moist, hot, dry, cold. So the humoral cycle in the quadrants (following diurnal motion) is: dry > hot > moist > cold becaus...

I personally would find it more 'natural' according to climate to apply flip over. North being equalized with winter on both the northern and southern hemisphere gives me some trouble, not to speak of what to do in the tropics where there's no winter. According to climate it would appear more 'natu...

You did invite comments on your article at the start of this thread did you not? However, as you haven't got the overwhelmingly positive feedback you seem to have anticipated , you have adopted a rather defensive and at times petulant tone. Anybody who publishes a new idea would be rather naive to ...

Personally I get where you are coming from, and also see where the confusion is with others. This idea is a westernised version of Nine Constellation or Nine Star as you said at the beginning. Yes, as soon as people are willing to step out of their fixed 'traditions' it is very easy to understand. ...

MikeCoop wrote:Hi Danny any chance of any brief usage of your system here? I am having problems reading your page and it might help if you illustrate the idea a little here.

What problem do you have in reading or downloading the article?
The article is some 10 pages, I think that's a bit long to reproduce here.

Hi Danny. What do you do with charts on the Equator and on the Southern hemisphere? Do you flip over the astro-directions or would you leave it, like allmost every astrologer (classical/modern) dispite the Mesopotamian roots of northern climatological/tropical symbolism? There is no flip over in th...

SO of course IF there was , even minor earthquakes (and of course there always are! I really don't think we are looking at anything extraordinary). How will that feed into the Neptunian transit feeding zealotry or crises of faith etc??? mike c With regards to earthquakes it is always good to keep t...

You are therefore asking an incredible amount of western astrologers to reverse their tradition of identifying Cancer with the North and Capricorn with South. In short you want to reverse an astrological tradition that seems to go back to ancient Mesopotamia. I am not asking anybody to reverse any ...

Having said all that... and maybe I should have actually said this part first :D .... I don't at all disagree with someone trying out variations on the systems and symbolism available, so although I disagree with the rationale discussed above, I don't disagree with the actual experimentation itself...

Astrology is founded on the symbolic perspective of living on this planet not on the Sun. Exactly my reason why I associate Capricorn with North. Our planet is tilted to the North when the Sun is in Cap. My perspective is on the planet. Incidentally, how does your system work in the southern hemisp...