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Martin, thanks a lot for your precious time and contribution. Now, verse 34 about the solar year length at the beginning of the "theory of the planets": sapa?ca?a??i? tri?ata? din?n?? / dy?na? dvibhinna? tu din???ak?n?m try?na? ?at?rdha? dinak?tsam? sy?t / yay? bhavarga? savit? bhunakti va...

Hello, I looked into Shukla?s criticism of Pingrees edition and translation of Yavanajataka 79. And after I had vehemently contended that this text uses the tropical reference frame, I now feel obliged to concede that the facts may be a bit more complicated than I had thought. I apologise if my foll...

Paul With regards the nakshatras, I was under the impression that the nakshatras were inherently sidereal, but that texts such as the Surya Siddhanta offered ways of using an ayanamsha to position them tropically. I don't think so. The planetary theory of the Suryasiddhanta is basically sidereal. Pr...

Varuna, Dieter, I found the passage that Martin taught me, but someone else will have to state where this is found in Ptolemy's works. "of the twelve signs the most northern, which are closer than the others to our zenith and therefore most productive of heat and of warmth are Cancer and Leo&qu...

Re: Many dates for the 'Beginning of the Piscean Age'

Mark, the rising times indicated in the Yavanajataka with identical values for Aries and Pisces are tropical. However, tropical rising times were also used in sidereal systems. So, this does not help much. Incidentally, I have only managed to download a version without David Pingree's commentary. Ha...

I haven't the time or the inclination to attempt to convince you, particularly as you have a very definite agenda which you seem determined to defend against nearly 1800 years' worth of tradition. My agenda here is the truth about the Yavanajataka, honestly. Independently of the 1800 years of tradi...

Varuna, If calendar making and astrology are not separated then we have a huge problem when using a sidereal zodiac and a solar year. Does not "observed" imply the planets amongst the stars? Is it possible to "observe" Tropical placements of planets? I thought the Tropical placem...

Hi Martin, I am perfectly happy to grant that some Indian texts, including the YJ, make use of a tropical year. (I haven't got the Sanskrit text to hand now, but I presume Pingree's translation to be correct.) The point is that the calendar and the astrological use of the zodiac are two different th...

Hi Martin, a word from my side, if I am allowed... We also have the fact that the earliest astrological texts entering India from the west such as the Yavana Jataka express ideas that seem explicitly tropical. One section the Yavana Jataka clearly refers to the Tropical Zodiac: 30. One should find t...

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