And Therese, everything Paul levied against me could be used against you also. Your descriptions of the signs (and Chiria's, who you endorse and whose ideas seem are very similar to your own), ignore the ancient writings in some very basic ways. (Or at least heavily tag on tropical stereotypes on th...

This will be my last word on the subject, as Paul said he won't comment anymore. After that, I will be done. No more for me. "You suggested...that you were using ancient sources. Clearly you are not. This is my point." I was the whole time. I relied on them to describe the planets and the ...

I already listed a few authors but really until you decide what ancient means, I cannot help more than I have. You listed Valens and Rhetorius yourself, have you read through their work carefully? Firmicus Maternus? Their. Work. Is. In. My. Sources. Actual you mention tropical astrology in every si...

Right, so we can only speculate why you started your list with Taurus as well. However I would still like an ancient source to verify this as it would be interesting to me if it were true. Can we conclude now that you don't have one and you are just going by Fagan's say so? Two reasons: 1) Because ...

Can you show me the translations of the mid 1990s on and the books that prove Fagen false.

Nevertheless, I'll give you a general idea of which sources were used where. For All The Planets Alex-Blaire ? For signs put their name in the search box http://westernsiderealastrology.wordpress.com/western-sidereal-astrology-is-real-astrology/ Astrological Origins - Fagen Book Esoteric Astrology h...

You don't seem to be aware of your responsibility when using the words and ideas of others. You haven't cited references except for a list of sources at the end of the 12 signs you crafted within a few days of concentrated writing. There is no way of knowing whose ideas you are copying, as there ar...

In addition, it seems to me that at least a part of what you are setting out to achieve is not to look at astrology with fresh eyes, agnostic of what is said about it by others, but instead to juxtapose in places against tropical astrology to highlight perceived failings of tropical astrology (with...

Thanks for the reference Bogdan, I understand that it may have been the time of the new year, but this doesn't mean that the ancient Babylonians and Egyptians specified that Taurus begun the zodiac, which is a different thing, even if it seems subtle at first. I'm just curious if there's a referenc...

They come from Fagen's Astrological Origins . Can you quote where he posits that the Babylonians explicitly state or implicitly demonstrate that their zodiac begins with Taurus, as it would be interesting from a tropical perspective to see the emphasis that ancient cultures place on the sign of the...

I'm confused by what you mean here, especially the "most likely". What sources are you drawing from here? Exaltations and fall are among some of the oldest parts of our store lore, with Saturn exalting in Libra, and therefore in fall in aries, or are you supposing some mix match again fro...

I find this idea interesting, do you have any references for this? That the Babylonians themselves remark that Taurus is the first sign of the zodiac? They come from Fagen's Astrological Origins . I'm also curious what references you are using for this idea of tropical Taurus being, effectively, si...