Well you mentioned that on a few occasions,like in the above link,but forgot to mention it doesn`t apply to the MC.Hence the remark about selective memory. Yes I noted Gauguelin's research and said it was interesting. End of story. I noted it because I found planets in the WSH 1st quadrant/equal 12... Forum: Traditional (& Ancient) Techniques Topic: Whole sign house system problems it poses Replies: 44 Views: 28026 Sat May 23, 2015 12:16 pm Jump to post
http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8233&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60 Well you mentioned that on a few occasions,like in the above link,but forgot to mention it doesn`t apply to the MC.Hence the remark about selective memory. As for planets in 9th being strong because they... Forum: Traditional (& Ancient) Techniques Topic: Whole sign house system problems it poses Replies: 44 Views: 28026 Fri May 22, 2015 10:19 pm Jump to post
Hi Just got this from a researcher. "I've just now had a quick look at MC's in the Equal houses - using 48,622 charts in 116 categories and see the distribution of MC's in the houses: 44% in H 9 44% in H10 06% in H 8 06% in H11 Something that stood out quite prominently was the MC in H8 for thr... Forum: Traditional (& Ancient) Techniques Topic: Whole sign house system problems it poses Replies: 44 Views: 28026 Fri May 22, 2015 6:32 pm Jump to post
Theoretically, we can use the nonagesimal (reminds me of infinitesimals) to mark the highest part a planet can reach in a native's individual horizon, at which point, the planet's natural qualities become emphasised in that particular individual's life. [THIS PART WAS EDITED BECAUSE I MADE A MISCON... Forum: Nativities & General Astrology Topic: Equal verses unequal house systems Replies: 92 Views: 42927 Fri May 22, 2015 2:41 pm Jump to post
Mark I understand you use W sign house because it explains the Gauguelin data,amongst other reasons. However,it doesn`t explain why those degrees in 12th quadrant house appear to be more powerfull than the powerful AC degree. Why would a planet at 4? Leo be more powerful than at an AC of 20 ? leo,as... Forum: Traditional (& Ancient) Techniques Topic: Whole sign house system problems it poses Replies: 44 Views: 28026 Fri May 22, 2015 1:57 pm Jump to post
astrocorreia wrote: Valens and others used the astronomical MC,and it had the same meaning as the 10th house?. The issue of Equal (or Whole sign) 10th vs the MC was previously raised in these threads: http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8233 http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8... Forum: Traditional (& Ancient) Techniques Topic: Whole sign house system problems it poses Replies: 44 Views: 28026 Fri May 22, 2015 1:17 pm Jump to post
Do you get the same AC sign using the method described by Valens below as when you use softwares? Cause in my case I get the oposite of my AC sign?!! "4. Finding the Ascendant. Having determined accurately the sun?s degree-position at the nativity, note where the dodekatemorion falls. The sign ... Forum: Nativities & General Astrology Topic: Sun sign astrology debunked? Replies: 3 Views: 4347 Fri May 22, 2015 11:40 am Jump to post
Yes,some of them appear to have used diferent systems together . However the idea that the MC is only a point seems fallacious. Valens`description of MC is similar to 10th house,so, to say,like Rob Hand,that quadrant was used only to assess strenght seems like jumping to conclusions. Thanks for your... Forum: Traditional (& Ancient) Techniques Topic: Whole sign house system problems it poses Replies: 44 Views: 28026 Fri May 22, 2015 10:58 am Jump to post
Hermes That`s very interesting.I must have another look at Valens`s user-unfriendly book. My sun ruler is dignified and the exaltation ruler exalted. But the AC ruler is conjunct Saturn. I`m going to testhis theory with friends and family. Forum: Nativities & General Astrology Topic: Sun sign astrology debunked? Replies: 3 Views: 4347 Fri May 22, 2015 10:54 am Jump to post
thanks for your comments isnt it a bit contradictory when people like Robert Schmitz claim that the houses are signs and not astronomical,yet Valens and others used the astronomical MC,and it had the same meaning as the 10th house?. Forum: Traditional (& Ancient) Techniques Topic: Whole sign house system problems it poses Replies: 44 Views: 28026 Fri May 22, 2015 12:02 am Jump to post
Thanks James You just added another point.Sun would be opposite the AC regardless of sign. The way I do it is to look at the sky-at around sunset the Sun appears to be in what we call 7th house. Moving it 30 degrees to the 8th looks weird. Having said that Vedic astrologers couldn`t give a monkeys`a... Forum: Traditional (& Ancient) Techniques Topic: Whole sign house system problems it poses Replies: 44 Views: 28026 Thu May 21, 2015 9:06 pm Jump to post
Whole sign house system problems it poses Hi I opened a new thread to deal with this topic. Many people now use whole sign house system like Indian and Hellenic astrologers. But this system poses some problems. Suppose someone has DEC at 29 Cancer,and Sun at 0-1 Leo.His Sun would be in 8th house by whole sign,but technically and astronomica... Forum: Traditional (& Ancient) Techniques Topic: Whole sign house system problems it poses Replies: 44 Views: 28026 Thu May 21, 2015 8:30 pm Jump to post