Thanks Deb for the quotes and your thoughts. I would love to know what Rob Hand says about Hayz if that book ever comes to light! I find the Bonatus requirement of oriental of the sun/occidental of the moon quite interesting too. Glad to know I am not the only one that is confused by the term. Of co...

Could someone put me straight on the definition of Halb and Hayz? In "The Horary Textbook" John Frawley says that if a diurnal planet is above the Earth in a daytime chart or below it in a night chart then it is in Halb. Likewise for a noctural planet that is above the Earth by night or be...