Tanit3333 wrote:When I think of Pluto-Saturn I often think of financial and resource constraints. My guess is the US will go through an economic hardship and possible stock market collapse, etc., especially since it opposes the Cancer planets in the July 4th, 1776 chart and squares Saturn in Libra. I am American, so I have a photographic memory of my country's chart. I am sure it will impact other countries in various ways where it touches them. Perhaps a particular resource in general might become more scarce, such as due to global warming.

I wonder what that Saturn Pluto conjunction is doing to India's chart? There was a news article a couple of weeks ago about a 63 year old Indian lady who was getting a pension, and I was fascinated that India has rolled out old age pensions for everybody, because their country's economy has grown so much, and this is very recent, over something like the past five years. Then yesterday there was a news article that said India' economy is set to overtake the UK's economy next year.

Not sure about how this conjunction will affect this chart, if it is the correct chart for India?

http://www.dominantstar.com/a_india1.htm

Fleur: That chart works very well for India, based on the time of midnight on August 15, 1947 in Delhi when British rule ended.
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tanit,

thanks for your comment on how this might impact the usa... hard to know.. i am not as trusting of the national charts for the usa as there are so many to choose from... however, i do believe the general view of a pluto opposite the natal pluto found in most of the charts is relevant.. it feels like that to me with where the usa is today.. whether it comes out in the finances, i am inclined to believe it does.. so an important top or bottom in the stock and bond markets is very possible.. i sort of see this coming just based off international finance and politics at this point in time..

i am actually thinking about the symbolism for saturn, regardless what sign it is in.. to me a lot of the 12th house themes seem to resonate with saturn.. maybe that is why saturn is considered at home in the 12th, or something like that, that i have picked up over the years.. the idea of famine, wars, prison and suffering sure seem like saturn type possibilities to me.. how much of that changes with saturn in cap, i am not so sure..

fleur,


thanks for pointing out the close conjunction of saturn/pluto in indias chart.. as you note - india seems to be on an upswing economically.. maybe this coincides with the transit of pluto/saturn in the 8th house of the midnight chart? it bears watching for any country to have the conjunction by birth and how it will play out in current events.. another country with the conjunction of course is israel, although not as exact as indias..