Tanit3333 wrote:

Yes. And what Frawley said was, "The planet ruling another sign in that house may... be significant" (if the concept of "next" is of relevance here, he said). This is important. Wouldn't have been applicable if that next sign wasn't in House 10. Just want to make sure people reading this thread knows this.

This is confusing. Does he mean an intercepted sign? Sorry, I don't have Frawley's book.

Yeah, I think all of us except Rookie here are scratching our heads at the outcome using a typical approach. My stay or go idea was just because the typical approach is not lining up well with the outcome.

I am glad I am not the only one who is seeing this!

Tanit, let me quote Frawley's paragraphs here:

Frawley wrote, "A house has one ruler and one ruler only. This is the planet that rules the sign on its cusp. This is so even if that cusp is at 29.59 degrees of its sign. There is no such thing as a co-ruler, this is a modern abomination.

"The planet ruling another sign in that house may, however, be significant; but
this will only be if the concept of next is relevant to the question. ‘Will my next
job be any better than the one I’ve got now?’ The ruler of the sign on the 10th
cusp will show the present job; the ruler of the next sign, in the usual order of the
signs, will show the putative next job. (This next could equally well be shown by Lord 10 about to leave the sign it is in. The sign it is about to enter would then show the next job.)"

Either way, Frawley sticks with House 10. Rookie's Jupiter can be relevant here, but it isn't because it rules the natural next sign - but "another sign", that also happens to be "next sign"- in that house. If I understand that correctly.

(Yea, my quote was a little confusing... sorry.)

Thanks for the info, Amelia!

To Tanit:

Myself:
- Jupiter (fall, technically besieged - the Moon is carrying the light from Mars to Saturn)
Tanit:
What do you mean about Jupiter being besieged? I wouldn't say so here.

Here is how I see it without being too stretchy here!
I always look at the MOON and its aspects to unfold the story and it looks like...
-Moon last over Mars
-Lots of aspects in between
-Moon last aspect to Saturn
So the action takes place between Mars and Saturn.
Rudolf Steiner links the Moon to our astral body (astral, as it relates to the stars), what moves our physical body (ASC).
When I was 21 years old, in an ashram in India, I became conscious of everything I had dreamt during the night, there was no more difference between day consciousness and night unconsciousness. I was directly connected to my astral body.
it was wisely perceived by Shirley McLaine (Moon conjunct Neptune in Virgo in the XII House conjunct the Fixed Star Thuban which was the Pole Star 3,000 years ago) in her first book 'Out on a Limb'.
So I know, here, it is not a Jupiter(Fall, Cadent) 'besieged' as per the rules but it is in the overall story. And after going R May 15th, it will conjunct Pluto twice (June 29th and November 9th)
Finally, the IX (with Jupiter in) signifies work stopping (IV end of the VI)
Regards!

Well, Well, Well!

I just got of the phone with my future employer and with this virus thing going on and the employer being a global company they decided back on April 4th that all employees including my future employment are to work a modified work week of 4 days AND take a 20% reduction in pay.

There you have it Tanit, you were correct

I am sorry to hear this and hope it is only temporary, Rookie. Good luck with everything. Divination is a very strange and mystical thing, eh?

Tanith, it's all good. As I said the money is extraordinary and even with the cut I'm still in a great position.

I love horsey and the more I learn the more I learn from you all. This one was amazing. A lot of back and forth but honestly everyone saw different things that are coming true

Till the next one, hopefully not a job query

Glad to hear that you're alright, even though there are hiccups. This really is in interesting chart. Thank you for giving us all a chance to weigh in.

Good luck!

Tanit3333 wrote:I am sorry to hear this and hope it is only temporary, Rookie. Good luck with everything. Divination is a very strange and mystical thing, eh?

Should have mentioned, Yes it is only a temporary pay cut. Alot of companies are doing it during this deceivingly difficult times.

Also glad to hear that you settle down in your new job Rookie!
A humble lesson in House rulership.
During Lilly's times, I can understand how the 10th H could be linked to their jobs. Most people were craftsmen (blacksmith, cabinet, candle, cobble maker, cooper, gunsmith) and their name and reputation(10th) were at stake.
I read Deb's articles on the matter. Food for thought!

Ouranous,

Just noticed your from Montreal. I am from originally Milton, Vermont, only 1 hour away. Have a nice weekend

Ouranos wrote:Also glad to hear that you settle down in your new job Rookie!
A humble lesson in House rulership.
During Lilly's times, I can understand how the 10th H could be linked to their jobs. Most people were craftsmen (blacksmith, cabinet, candle, cobble maker, cooper, gunsmith) and their name and reputation(10th) were at stake.
I read Deb's articles on the matter. Food for thought!

Lilly On 10th House:

Commonly it personifies kings, princes, dukes, earls, judges, prime officers, commanders in chief, whether in armies or towns; all sorts of magistracy and officers in authority; mothers, honour, preferment, dignity, office, lawyers; the profession or trade any one useth; it signifies kingdoms, empires, dukedoms, counties.

Sorry, I am confused here.
When do you use the 6th or the 10th for a job or career question?
Thank you,