I think it has been very hard to find out what has been going in the UK ....

I read this today ...

"Of the 21,180 confirmed reported deaths so far in hospitals in England of people who tested positive for Covid-19, 11,090 (52%) have been people aged 80 and over while 8,238 (39%) were 60-79.

A further 1,691 (8%) were aged 40-59, with 150 (1%) aged 20-39 and 11 (0.05%) aged 0-19, according to NHS England."

H

Hi Woo Woo
It also seems the death rate to be approx 0.07% of the known infected total which is probably somewhere between 10 & 50 times higher. i.e the known infected total. So the death rate is on a par with flu, yet the whole world economy has been shut down & liberal values removed in a couple of weeks.
I know a doctor at a busy hospital who has been daily exposed to treat Corvid patients over 6 weeks & despite being tested every day has constantly been negative yet his wife who has not ventured out of the house over the same period has tested positive. So why the masks & 2-meter rule if this couple live together & no cross-infection has occurred?
Is this the elite's last attempt to engineer total control in the world population, the Pluto /Saturn conjunction occurring on the 22 degrees the kill or be killed degree which is China's 12 house Jupiter degree. The Cancer 0 degree eclipse could be the beginning of a new world order. Worried about impending inflation
& food availability could be mass riots as Mars travels through Aries.

The 18.5 Year Nodal Cycle is one that Louise McWhitter related to the Economy and Property Prices.

About 1.5 Years ago it was at its peak as it reached the early Degrees of Leo. Since then it has started its 9.25 Year descent.

Tomorrow it moves into Gemini. And I think we get a significant Change.

Talking Broad Generalisation it is moving away from Cancer and 4th House Themes to more short Distance Travel, Connectivity and Communication related to Gemini.

It seems relavant as we move away from Destiny Issues related to the Old Age and now to those Business Sectors most badly hit by the Virus.

As the Node sweeps thru Gemini they are going to be severely Tested.

However, to start with the Node receives a trine from Mars.

H

It seems that Monday 11th May will be the Day we start to lift the Lockdown in the UK.

Saturn turns retro on that Day, and starts to apply to the US's n.Pluto. Soon after Jupiter to turns retro and begins to separate from The Heart of Capitalism.

??

Talk in the UK of Rolling Back the Support given to Staff getting Government Support too.

However Pluto is applying to Neptune and my theory is that this is sort of Global Economic Security stabilising ...

H

Folks,

The last I heard was that the virus has mutated, and the one on the rampage in the US is different than the one that started in China. This means there are “two??? types of Covid-19 now. The news come and goes fast (often overnight it changes direction); therefore, correct me please if I’m wrong.

By the way, the following is not astrology -- I’m currently working on astrology of the nursing home issue – that takes a while, so here is the introduction.

I found symbolic similarities between a local sinkhole in Kericho, Kenya and Covid-19 which started in Wuhan, China. You must see the video for your own conclusions (it was taken on May 1, 2020). The video footage shows the sinkhole starting to swallow some long grass, and more chunks of long grass rapidly moving towards where the action is – soon bales of them are disappearing into the sinkhole. If the camera stays at the same angle, I might witness the sinkhole eating up huge chunks of land. But the camera moved and showed a new image. This time you see not one but “two??? sinkholes busy in action… that is, they just keep swallowing long grass all surrounding vegetation.

https://www.msn.com/en-za/video/viral/k ... i-BB13BoQI

I’ve transferred this local incident into a symbol of the world’s affairs. Covid 19 started in a city in China but rapidly involved nearby cities in Hubei province, and other places in China, and soon the spectators outside of China became the victims.

I could also transfer this from the medical emergency itself to, say, the stock market for instance; you first heard about troubles from industries related to travel and health, then it rapidly sucked in more and more of the rest of the economy. As we all know, many governments stepped in, and they are getting sucked under also.

Earlier, in the New Moon California chart, I mentioned that Saturn conjunct 4th could be read as lockdown; also, the other things such as homes, rents, real estates, etc.; here is additional:

California went from a big budget surplus to a huge deficit. Not to mention the city of San Francisco (where I live). Since the announcement by the city that it would supply hotel rooms to those homeless camping on the streets (which is not working well), the latest figures show there’s a 285% jump in tents. The City also provides these people alcohol, methadone, nicotine and marijuana (“San Francisco's Department of Public Health said on Wednesday that it provides alcohol, nicotine and other addictive substances for the homeless they are housing in the city's empty hotel rooms.??? -- https://www.ktvu.com/news/debate-ensues ... -in-hotels ) Now the institutions and citizens in the worst neighborhood, the Tenderloin, are suing the city because the conditions are unlivable for the regular population.


According to today’s SF Chronicle by Phil Matier:

‘Mayor London Breed’s call to “draw the line??? on who gets emergency housing during the coronavirus outbreak was prompted by field reports of a sharp increase in the number of homeless people coming into the city looking for a free hotel room. “People are coming from all over the place — Sacramento, Lake County, Bakersfield,??? Fire Chief Jeanine Nicholson said. “We have also heard that people are getting released from jail in other counties and being told to go to San Francisco, where you will get a tent and then you will get housing.???’

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/phi ... 241814.php

Jac, that thought has crossed my mind.

I think from about the 14th May when Saturn has turned retrograde that something very noticeable will change. Definitely by the end of May.

My feeling is that our UK prime minister Boris Johnson has wanted to ease the lockdown, but others have forced him to rule otherwise. He is a good, intelligent man with a deep respect for civil liberty.

hi fleur,

i don't see any poster on this thread named jac... i am not sure what you are referencing as that is not clear either!

i think the usa and uk - the 2 countries responsible for the charge to war in countless instances over the past 20 odd years and with the apparently best health care providers in the world have clearly dropped the ball big time... i would disagree with the way you have characterized boris johnson as well.. either way if you compare the numbers of dead or infected the leadership is being shown elsewhere then with the usa-uk here..

there are 3 retrograde planets happening soon.. i quote from a friend -
Sa May 10
Ve May 13
Ju May 14

i am not sure what this means, but we can talk about it soon enough...

i don't doubt that the blame gang will continue with the china did it meme.. this is what irresponsible people do - they blame others for their own negligence...

for an alternative viewpoint, read this -
https://justworldnews.org/2020/05/06/co ... -hegemony/

Hello Fleur & James.

Yes, I did post my concerns about Saturn in Capricorn, and the fact it will be difficult. Taskmaster, discipline, etc., things I know intimately.

Saturn demands you mature or suffer. One cannot remain childish and simple, he will have his way.

I uploaded some links to illustrate that the masses will have to grow up and face the music. Apparently someone didn't like this, and deleted my post. This is as appropriate a time as any to consider exactly who coined the term "conspiracy theory" and why. If that's too vague, it's a cover for those who would harm us affording them the freedom to continue their nefarious efforts.

That said, here are the links, again, for your consideration:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/oGVRqleTzzMi/ dr. erickson

https://www.bitchute.com/video/XZWAuRwiAz0p/ dr. mikovits

http://stopthecrime.net/wp/2020/04/06/d ... -shutdown/ dr.shiva

Yes, I just posted, but I just now read your Covid First Wave thread with great interest. The 1949 Rep of China sure looks fitting to me. Libra, showy and full of fight. Aquarius conjunct moon, which looks to me like; "China FEELS like it looks"... perhaps that's odd, but that's my take. Also, we have that 1st house Aq, science & scientists, revolution/revolt. And that Mars & Pluto in the 7th house, esp with Scorp asc... gangsta style.

I really hope my posts aren't deleted again because several of you skirted and hit real elements at play here. When Fauci was head of the NIH, he was having our scientists (here in US) tamper with SARS to supercharge it, in effect. Our gov't (in a rare instance of conscience) forbid this. So Fauci takes 3.7 billion $$ and sends this project to Wuhan in 2015!

This, and more is explained in the video (link below) interview w/Dr. Rashid Buttar, one of the top doctors in US (now living in NZ) outlines the timetable and events that played out to bring this into being. It explains a lot. This is why he's been run off youtube (thanks to Gates & Fauci $). Unfortunately you have to sign in to see this video, but like Bitchute, it's one of the very few not censored.

Most of you understand U.S. health industry is behemoth business with only ostentatious regard for healing, much less public health. The truth is slowly emerging here, and Saturn, Lord of Karma will be no joke.

Here also is a nifty link to a page on the Saturn/Pluto conjunction.
https://timenomad.app/posts/astrology/e ... aning.html

You'll be amazed how spot on you were Fleur, Tanit, Zosma.

https://londonreal.tv/digital-freedom-p ... id-buttar/

jac,

okay.. thanks!

i asked a friend of mine with a scientific bent what he thought of conspiracy theories.. he had a good analogy.... here it is...

people generally much prefer reading fiction to reading the encyclopedia Britannia.. there is a reason for this...

regarding the latest famous covid 19 star - judy mikovits, read a few alternative views on her if you are interested...

https://respectfulinsolence.com/2020/05 ... -pandemic/

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05 ... auci-viral

Hi James; I agree with your friend, good analogy.

My reflex is when I hear or read 'conspiracy theory', is that someone is burying the truth. Same for for 'fact checkers'. Looks like the propaganda mill is doing double time to try to hide this mess.

Another giveaway is the fact that the sources calling CS, are always the fatcats, while the whistleblowers generally have the least to lose, usually "only" their jobs, families, and lives, but not billion dollar empires (and the criminals connected to them). However, this isn't news- go back to JFK's assassination and check out Mae Brussell. It makes for a fascinating study.

Thanks for posting, I had a look.

I hope you had a chance to see at least one of the links I offered.

The govt's lied to me all my life while using us for medical and drug experiments, poisoning us every which way they can, and I'm now expected to believe that they care about our health? Our destroyed economy, civil liberties in jeopardy, and garbage science make this glaringly obvious to me.

Come on Saturn/Pluto!

hi jac,

thanks! i did take a look at the links you provided...

i hear you when you say the gov't has lied to you your whole life...i think many people feel this way, especially in the usa.. it is natural to resist what they say now!

cheers james