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Hi Ouranos

As your post about the James Webb space telescope and exoplanets does not really pertain to asteroids, I have taken the liberty to split this and the reply you got off and create a new thread for them in the science forum:

http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11538

As a matter of fact, this subject is so interesting that it does deserve a thread of its own! :D

Thank you for your understanding.

Michael
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my daily play with asteroids:

MAterialist scientist Stephen Hawking has asteroid Hobbes, named after the materialist philosopher, conjunct his natal Jupiter. He has Greek materialist philosopher Epikouros conjunct his natal Venus. And he has materialist Thales conjunct his natal Pallas Athena!

And how fittingly for a materialist, he has Sun opposite Plato!

(note, when playing with asteroids in his chart, I first started off with general cosmology and math related names, such as Pythagoras, Newton, geometria, Big Bang, Einstein, Hubble, Archimides and others -- but nothing significant showed up -- until I went to search for materialist names)

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Went back to the physicists and got a bit carried away
— this time I looked up Quantz (the closest asteroid there is to quantum)
and the asteroids named after famous mathematicians and cosmologists Archimedes, Leibniz, Pythagoras, Demokritos, Fibonacci, EUclydes, Ptolemaeus
And I added Plato too.

Niels Bohr is the winner:
Quantz conjunct Ascendant, Leibniz conjunct Part of Fortune, Fibonacci conjunct Venus, Archimedes conjunct North Node, Ptolemaeus conjunct Jupiter, Euclides conjunct Pholus and Plato conjunct Mars!

Closely followed by Max Tegmark, contemporary physicist/cosmologist (b. 1967) of the mathematical universe hypothesis
Archimedes conjunct Venus, Demokritos and Quantz conjunct Sun, Leibniz conjunct Pallas Athena, Ptolemaeus conjunct North node, and Fibonacci close to his Moon (time of birth unknown)

Einstein does really well of course:
Quantz conjunct the MC, Pythagoras conjunct Venus, Euclydes conjunct Moon, Fibonacci conjunct Mars trine Pluto, Ptolemaeus opposite Venus, Leibniz conjunct Vertex

So does Freeman Dyson: Fibonacci conjunct Jupiter, Archimedes conjunct Mercury, Ptolemaeus conjunct Juno, Quantz conjunct Sun, Leibniz conjunct MArs, and Plato conjunct PAllas Athena.

De Broglie: Euclydes conjunct his part of fortune, Leibniz conjunct the MC, Plato conjunct the Moon, Fibonacci conjunct Lilith and Archimedes conjunct his Moon

Hawking: Quantz conjunct Venus and Part of Fortune, Fibonacci conjunct Pallas Athena, and as said above, very fittingly for a materialist, he has Sun opposite Plato!

Richard Feynman: Pythagoras conjunct Moon, Fibonacci conjunct Venus, Demokritos conjunct Pholus, Sun conjunct Quantz.

Paul Dirac: Plato conjunct the Ascendant, Archimedes conjunct his Moon, Quantz conjunct Juno and widely conjunct his Moon

Wolfgang Pauli: Quantz, Plato and Archimedes conjunct Mercury! and Leibniz conjunct his part of fortune and Pholus

Hubble: Fibonacci conjunct his Jupiter, Ptolemaeos conjunct his Venus (and widely Mercury and Moon)

Heisenberg: Mercury conjunct Leibniz

This stuf keeps blowing my mind away. Shouldn’t this be enough to convert any skeptic?

Anyway, Merry Christmas to you all!

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Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins has asteroid Darwin conjunct his sun.

Former US president Bill Clinton has asteroid Hillary conjunct his moon.

Where asteroid match-ups really work well, IMO, is in synastry. Not everyone has a namesake asteroid, but many people do. You can also use cognate names in other languages, such as John=Johannes, Hans, Jean, Jan, Juan, Ivan, Ian, Giovanni &c. It may not mean much in your own chart, but if you are in a committed relationship, see where your namesake asteroid falls in your beloved's chart, and vice versa.

My husband's namesake asteroid (using the cognate German name) conjuncts my sun. The cognate German variant of my name conjuncts my husband's moon. (We're both anglophone but with a lot of German ancestry.)

Orbs are an issue. I think we can use a planet's own orb, but keep in mind there are over 20,000 asteroids out there and counting. Any given degree will have quite a few.

I pretty much use only planet-asteroid conjunctions. Maybe other major planet-asteroid aspects for the "big four" asteroids. I don't use asteroid-asteroid aspects, because once you take the lid off asteroids, you can make a chart mean anything you want. There is a lot of "space junk" out there.

The first hundred or so asteroids discovered were named after figures from Roman mythology. They have a story to tell, which is probably consistent with that myth's core meaning.

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Waybread, thank you for your input. indeed, lots of space junk! I mainly use asteroids in conjunctions too. Exceptionally trines and oppositions are worth looking at too, such as in Hawking's case Plato opposite his Sun. And in Jeff Bezos' case: Jupiter trine asteroid Amazone -- I really would have expected Amazone conjunct his MC or conjunct a personal planet, but the trine with Jupiter was all I got.

Personal names do tend to show up indeed. Bezos has Mackenzie conjunct his north node. Bill Gates has Melinda conjunct his Sun. Elon Musk has both Grimm and Bouchet (the last name of his current wife Grimes is Boucher) conjunct his Mars, and Grimmet conjunct his Juno! (note, in the next couple of years Saturn is going to transit over his Mars/Grilm/Bouchet, Uranus is going to square them, and Pluto is going to oppose his Juno -- I don't think this marriage will last)

But names do not always show up. Amal and Clooney don't have each other's names at significant spots, if I recall well. Paul Dirac, Niels Bohr and Wolfgang Pauli all were born with the asteroid that was named after them conjunct their sun -- but in none of the other physicists I studied their name appeared at a significant spot.

In my own chart, asteroid Anna is conjunct the ruler of my Ascendant, and asteroid Anandaro (the closest there is to my full name) is conjunct my ascendant!

And I just discovered there's an asteroid called Asteroidday. It went over my Ascendant early December, when my study of Ettore Majorana's chart intensified my interest in asteroids.

Anyway, fun to play with, and it fills me with awe and wonder.