Read most of the thread, subsequent to my previous posting. I'm also using the Russia flag raised chart of 25th of Dec 1991, 7:38 PM, Moscow (according to Russian Wikipedia item of 'history of Russia' - I'm a Russian speaker).
The transits of Zelensky's and Putin's charts are interesting.

I've updated the analysis on my blog. In it, I've originally analyzed the invasion chart as a sports-horary chart (who wins?) but I've now added an analysis of the national charts of Ukraine and Russia.

The updated bottom line seems to be some sort of ending to the "hot phase" of this war during the end of April to the middle of May, and a continuation of fighting / resistance throughout Ukraine till the Spring of 2023.

Here are my insights in depth if you're interested:
https://www.gurastro.com/2022/03/russia ... raine.html

James

that was funny ouranos... - some folks have given over to calling ukraine 404.. have you heard of that too?

i feel the first week of april is a critical time for this russia-ukraine dynamic, which as i see it is really a usa(nato)-russia dynamic, ukraine being the place of the proxy war...

I feel the most compelling position to look at with all the charts that have been suggested in this war is the Fixed Star Antares around 9 degree Sagittarius (Tropical) - Watcher of the West where the Moon of Ukraine Lord of ASC is located and near the time when the war was launched. Also the position of ASC in US Chart Sibly Chart

"Antares is the component of the divine tetramorph initiating change and the metamorphosis of form life; in this sense its qualities are healing or destructive. In a natal chart, Antares directs the planets it encounters toward purgation, so that an incisive application of its energy is possible."
http://www.friendsofastrology.org/joe-polise-blog

"Ptolemy classified Antares as a Mars-Jupiter type, and all astrologers have noted it as an indicator of success in war, and high command therein, but not forgetting that one’s opponent may have the support of Aldebaran, the star opposite to this one, and star of Archangel Michael, commander of the Heavenly Host itself! What does tend to show up when these two stars are both engaged on the horoscope is a conflict, either the starting date of the war or the natal charts of the leaders, is that peace rarely ensues before the total and crushing defeat of one side or the other. And it is a war that escalates to huge proportions, even to a world scale, as aggressive Mars is precedence over expansive Jupiter would imply."
https://astrologyking.com/antares-star/

Ceres just went over this position
"Ceres describes what we need to feel nurtured in this life and how we nurture those around us. You know how deep, dark, and beautiful a mother's love is? It's so strong, the sharpest and most indestructible knife couldn't carve a mark into it. Ceres represents that depth of love that sits within all of us." - How strongly Ukrainians and the World feel about them right now!
https://www.elitedaily.com

Here are my insights in depth if you're interested:
https://www.gurastro.com/2022/03/russia ... raine.html

Love your analysis of the Moon in this case.

Thanks DimaGur!

thanks ouranos

correction to my post above... ukraine chart for 557 in sidereal has BGT - 3 hour difference and has 22 sag 03 rising....

about antares - okay, but i don't see much of a tie in.. what chart are you using for ukraine, or are you referring to the invasion chart?

dima

thanks for the note on 738pm for the russia flag chart.. it makes a slight difference... it is the same deal on the dynamic for the ukraine chart that was pointed out to me many years ago that the ukrainian astrologers work with a 557pm, as opposed to 531pm chart for ukraine.. thanks also for sharing your astrological ruminations..

there is so much propaganda flying, that when i read commentary that has more of it - i try to just skim over it and stay focused on the astrological commentary...

thanks both of you.. at some point i might elaborate on what i perceive here aside from pointing out again - this is a war between usa with nato and russia taking place on ukrainian soil... a proxy war..

about antares - okay, but i don't see much of a tie in.. what chart are you using for ukraine, or are you referring to the invasion chart?

Yes James sorry the Moon of the invasion chart not Ukraine

Always good to be reminded of the Antiscia. We are not done yet with the SA/UR square.

"In recent world events, Russia invaded Ukraine as transiting Saturn in Aquarius moved from an exact square aspect with Uranus in Taurus into a contra-antiscia relationship. When Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, 2022, Saturn was at 18°14’ Aquarius and Uranus was at 11°23’ Taurus. The two planets were applying and perfecting in exact contra-antiscia aspect. While the long-standing tension between Saturn in Aquarius and Uranus in Taurus (square aspect) would correspond with the escalation of conflict within the Ukraine, the fact that the invasion began at the same time that Saturn and Uranus formed a contra-antiscia connection reveals the highly visible impact made by planets forming antisica aspects.

Saturn and Uranus forming a midpoint to 0° Aries signifies an event of major world impact because of the significance of the cardinal axis in mundane astrology. Astrologers also call the cardinal axis the Aries point or Earth point. The Aries point is the Sun’s node, as it is the intersection of the ecliptic and Earth’s equator, and is the point we all share (node simply means intersection). As a result, some astrologers interpret the Aries point and the cardinal axis as relating an individual to the general public. Thus, it could be said that the volatile irritability and tension of Saturn and Uranus reflecting the world point brought their shattering impact more acutely into mundane events."


Kate Petty and Gray Crawford on the last Mountain Astrologer blog
https://mountainastrologer.com/in-light ... -antiscia/
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Alfred Witte
SA/UR = Quarrels. Sudden separation. To part and die. To be separated suddenly. Surprising delay. Technical problems. Sudden disturbances. Disturbed rhythm. Sudden losses. Tension in old age. Technology in idle mode (standby, shut-down). Outdated technology.
SA/UR = Aries Point General leave-taking. Sudden events with property losses.

There must be careful consideration that there are most probably errors in the time that is being used by people n the Russian attack War chart and even of "Putins" natal charts. Both are unconfirmed.

The mundane approach seems more reliable.
Uranus = the the USA techno elite
Neptune = Russia

There is is much misinformation on who started the so called ukrainian war with Russia. I have read even here that Russia is the war mongerer, however research will show that it is indeed the USA and its regime change operations that are conducting the war against Russia. This war is USA elites vs Russia, not ukraine vs Russia.
Neptune and Jupiter being in Piscies shows Russia is the more "just" and noble party.

Uranus in contra antiscia to Saturn shows their nefarious hidden yet restrained involvement in the war, that is their covert CIA operations in training Nazis in Ukraine and promoting the war.

As Jupiter approaches Neptune we shall see victory come to Russia, and as Saturn eventually goes retro expect to see supply restrictions in USA bloc countries and mayhem, especially when venus the dispositor of Uranus moves into Piscies and particulary conjunction Neptune, a peace deal is reached completely in russias favour.

regards
Peter

I was intrigued with the missile strike or rather the dual missile strike & the
destruction of the crown in the Black Sea fleet ( here again we have black as in the black sun symbol ) The missile cruiser Moskva apologies for any misspelling.
So this occurred as Mars was in the last degrees of Aquarius about to enter Pisces midpoint the Pluto / Neptune position. The missiles were named Neptune appropriately. Mars about to enter the mutable sign of Pisces so two missiles were fired. Jupiter in conjunction with Neptune so it was the largest most prestigious of the black seas fleet the pride of Putin. Massive loss of sailors. Some estimate 500 lost at sea. With Venus being exalted in Pisces at the time would this suggest that Venus brought favour to Ukraine in the war effort & Mars entering the critical 29 degree , it was towed but sank into the ocean as it entered Pisces, so would Mars represent Russia. After all the war began when Mars conjunct Venus the rulers of the nodes at that time as the nodes transited Algol
Also when Mars conjoined Saturn it was then that the Russians had to withdraw from Kiev & regroup & rethink their strategy

Love your input Zosma!

Also when Mars conjoined Saturn it was then that the Russians had to withdraw from Kiev & regroup & rethink their strategy

Also this is when they discovered the atrocities in Bucha.

backing up western msm talking points with astrology is an interesting approach...

ever heard of the fog of war and how the first casualty is the truth?

happy easter!

Easter greetings to all
James I do try to use astrology to uncover the truth, but admit to my short comings in my attempts, but hey! Let him without sin cast the first stone, my little sermon from Holy Week.
On the theme of holy things & patron saints So my thoughts were as Venus Mars collided in planetary wars would it be feasible to assume let’s say Venus the Patron for Ukraine & Mars for Russia ! Given Putin has a Scorpio ascendant
Mars would represent the Reds, & Venus has a colour association with the Ukrainian flag blue / yellow. I realise that there is some fiendish dark neocon/ illuminati agenda ongoing where a collapse / dissolve & reform as is written on the baphomet arms has been going on since Covid was manufactured. They hope to generate a NWO to throne the anti Christ, but trying to find planets represent this is beyond me, or maybe a planet is yet to be uncovered .. surely we can name it the antiChrist.
So returning to my theme of Venus Mars. It is interesting that the early degrees of Pisces have an antiscia which squares Pluto . So Venus antiscia square Pluto 1st week of April atrocities of Bucha. Mars antiscia of Pluto sinking of Moskva. It will be interesting how these two planetary movements and the course of the battle will pan out & if any further correlation plays out.

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCD0hTApPdhw4ImbIGxzyO7g This video links with this theme Forecast for the Ukraine war