Example charts from Valens Anthology 1 by kubernetes Using this extremely helpful tool (thank you Astro-seek!) I'm reproducing example charts from Valens Anthology: https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/custo ... -generator I love the detailed examples that Valens provides in his text, but the problem is that I have difficulties visualizing all the details and positions that he describes. I would much rather just look at an actual chart in order to grok all the details. I'm using this text: https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Ve ... entire.pdf None of the charts have degrees provided, but I arbitrarily positioned everything at 15 degrees so that its obvious what sign the planets and angles are in. Keep in mind that I'm manually inputting all the positions to generate the chart so it's possible that I might make a mistake or two Last edited by kubernetes on Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:09 am, edited 3 times in total. Transire suum pectus mundoque potiri Quote Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:34 am
From page 36/172 2 by kubernetes For clarification of the previous points, we will use examples, taking first a distinguished nativity: Sun in Scorpio, moon in Cancer, Saturn in Aquarius, Jupiter in Sagittarius, Mars in Scorpio, Venus in Libra, Mercury in Scorpio, Ascendant in Libra. Since the birth was at night, I investigate the moon: this happens to be in Cancer, trine with Mars. We find Mars rising just after the Ascendant and in its own house [Scorpio], triangle [Scorpio Pisces Cancer], and sect [nocturnal]. Then we find Venus sharing rulership with Mars, being in the Ascendant and in its own house [Libra]. Third, we find the moon at MC in its own house [Cancer]. It is obvious that the nativity is distinguished, since the houserulers are configured so appropriately. Investigating the Lot of Fortune, I find it in Aquarius; Saturn is there, the ruler [of Aquarius] and in [the V Place of] Good Fortune, in its own house [Aquarius] and /80P/ triangle [Aquarius Libra Gemini]. Likewise the 11th Place from the Lot of Fortune, i.e. the Place of Accomplishment, is [Sagittarius], and Jupiter is there. I also found the exaltation of the nativity: from the moon to Taurus is eleven signs, and the same distance from the Ascendant in Libra brings me to Leo, in [the XI Place of] Good Daimon. The sun is the ruler of this and since it is found to be at MC with respect to the Lot of Fortune, it made the birth even more illustrious and distinguished. Last edited by kubernetes on Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:24 pm, edited 1 time in total. Transire suum pectus mundoque potiri Quote Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:36 am
From page 36/172 3 by kubernetes Another example: sun, Mercury in Taurus, moon in Aries, Saturn, Mars, Venus, Ascendant in Cancer, Jupiter in Capricorn, the Lot of Fortune and the exaltation of the nativity in Gemini. The native rose from mediocre origins to become a prefect and a governor. Since this was a day birth, I found the sun in the triangle of the moon [Taurus Virgo Capricorn] and its partners, Venus and Mars, at an angle [Ascendant], the /84K/ Lot of Fortune and the exaltation in Gemini, just preceding an angle (hence the beginning of his life was humble), and its ruler [Mercury] in [the XI Place of] Good Daimon. Last edited by kubernetes on Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:26 pm, edited 1 time in total. Transire suum pectus mundoque potiri Quote Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:07 am
From page 36/172 4 by kubernetes Another example: sun, Mars, Venus, Mercury in Aquarius, moon, Jupiter in Scorpio, Saturn in Aries, Ascendant in Leo. This nativity also went from humble and ordinary fortune to the fortune of a prefect and a wealthy man. Since it was a day birth, we find the sun in the triangle of Saturn [Aquarius Gemini Libra] with Saturn just preceding an angle [MC]. Therefore his first years were ordinary. Saturn’s partner, Mercury, is at an angle [Descendant]. We find the Lot of Fortune in Taurus, the exaltation in Libra, and the ruler of these [Venus] is at MC relative to the Lot of Fortune and at an angle [Descendant] otherwise [=relative to the Ascendant]. Last edited by kubernetes on Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:28 pm, edited 1 time in total. Transire suum pectus mundoque potiri Quote Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:14 am
From page 36/172 5 by kubernetes Another example: sun, Mercury in Taurus, moon in Aquarius, Saturn, Venus in Aries, Jupiter in Virgo, Mars in Pisces, Ascendant in Leo. We find the sun in the triangle of Venus and the moon [Taurus Virgo Capricorn] with Venus preceding an angle [MC]. So the native’s life was at first burdened and lowly, but since the moon is at an angle [Descendant], later he came into governmental and advantageous circumstances. Likewise the Lot of Fortune was found in Taurus, the exaltation in Cancer. The moon, the ruler of Cancer, was found at MC relative to the Lot of Fortune; therefore the native came into great fortune and governorship. Mars is found in the Place of Accomplishment, [which gave to him] property from plunder, stealing, and violence, property which after his death was plundered most abominably. Last edited by kubernetes on Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:29 pm, edited 1 time in total. Transire suum pectus mundoque potiri Quote Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:20 am
From page 36/172 6 by kubernetes Another example: sun, Mercury, Saturn, Jupiter in Sagittarius, moon in Cancer, Mars in Virgo, Venus, Ascendant in Libra. Since this was a night birth, /81P/ we find the moon in the triangle of Mars [Cancer Scorpio Pisces] with Mars itself and the Lot of Fortune and its ruler [Jupiter] preceding angles. Therefore he lived his first years humbly and in poverty; he experienced captivity and servitude and was involved in many dangers. But since the stars of the same sect happened to be in operative places, he came into friendships and associations and received positions of royal trust. Since the exaltation of the nativity was found in Leo, and its ruler, the sun, was at MC relative to the Lot of Fortune, he was thought worthy of the governorship and a position of power. *This is the last of the charts from page 36* Last edited by kubernetes on Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:30 pm, edited 1 time in total. Transire suum pectus mundoque potiri Quote Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:26 am
From page 37/172 7 by kubernetes /85K/ Another example: sun, Mercury in Capricorn, moon, Venus in Sagittarius, Saturn in Scorpio, Jupiter in Libra, Mars in Aquarius, Fortune in Aries, Ascendant in Taurus. This nativity too was at first irregular and mediocre, but later he rose and gained chaplets and a high priesthood. The rulers of the triangle [of the Lot of Fortune: Taurus Virgo Capricorn] were found to be following an angle [Descendant], and the third ruler [Mars] of the triangle and the ruler of the Lot were at MC. Likewise the ruler [sun] of the exaltation of the nativity [Leo] was at MC relative to the Lot of Fortune, as was the ruler [Mercury] of Daimon [Gemini]. Last edited by kubernetes on Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:33 pm, edited 3 times in total. Transire suum pectus mundoque potiri Quote Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:51 pm
From page 37/172 8 by kubernetes Another example: sun, Mercury in Cancer, moon in Taurus, Saturn in Pisces, Jupiter, Mars in Leo, Venus in Virgo, Ascendant in Libra. This nativity too was illustrious and distinguished. The native was entrusted with royal office and was thought worthy of a high priesthood. The ruler [Mars] of the triangle [Cancer Scorpio Pisces] was found with the ruler of Daimon [Jupiter] in [the XI Place of] Good Daimon and with the Lot of Fortune. The sun, at MC, was assigned the Lot. The ruler of the exaltation, the moon, was at MC relative to the Lot of Fortune. The Place of Accomplishment was irregular and unstable, sometimes being too full, at other times empty, for Saturn and Venus were in aspect to it [square]. Last edited by kubernetes on Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:35 pm, edited 1 time in total. Transire suum pectus mundoque potiri Quote Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:02 pm
From page 37/172 9 by kubernetes Another example: sun, Jupiter, Mars, Venus in Scorpio, Saturn in Libra, moon in Aries, Mercury in Sagittarius, Ascendant in Leo. The ruler of the exaltation, Mercury, was found in Sagittarius, at MC relative to the Lot of Fortune, and it elevated the nativity with respect to livelihood. Likewise the rulers [sun Jupiter] of the triangle [of the sun: Aries Leo Sagittarius] and of the Lot of Fortune were found at IC. This made him miserly, unambitious, and niggardly *Editor's note* I find this example rather odd because two of the major trigon lords + the Lot of Fortune ruler were at the IC yet it's described as if it were a bad thing. I wonder if there's some triplicity doctrine that I'm not aware of or if there was some error in translation (unlikely). EDIT: On the next page I found a small statement that might explain this: "If the sun or the moon or most of the stars are found at IC, the native will be distinguished and rich, but [the stars] will ruin his life terribly or involve him in hatred, lawsuits, and slander." So apparently planets in the IC give success but at a price. I wonder what the underlying rationale for this is? Last edited by kubernetes on Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:51 pm, edited 3 times in total. Transire suum pectus mundoque potiri Quote Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:11 pm
From page 37/172 10 by kubernetes Another example: sun, Mercury in Taurus, moon in Aquarius, Saturn in Leo, Mars, Venus in Cancer, Jupiter in Virgo, Ascendant in Sagittarius. Since this was a night birth, the rulers, Saturn and Mercury, of the triangle [Gemini Libra Aquarius] just preceded angles [MC Descendant]. /82P/ Therefore he had many ups and downs in his early years and lived in debt, although the basis [of the nativity] was good with respect to parents. Later he got an inheritance and improved his means by profitable enterprises, and he became ambitious, dominant, and munificent. He was popular with the masses and a friend of kings /86K/ and governors. He supplied temples and public works and gained perpetual remembrance. The Lot of Fortune and the exaltation were found in Pisces, and its ruler, Jupiter, was at MC. Transire suum pectus mundoque potiri Quote Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:18 pm
From page 37/172 11 by kubernetes Another example: sun, Mercury in Scorpio, moon in Aries, Saturn in Virgo, Jupiter in Pisces, Mars in Leo, Venus, Ascendant in Sagittarius. Even when he was a child, the nativity inherited great property. The Place of Accomplishment was in Pisces, with Jupiter in its own house. Venus, the co-ruler of the triangle, the Lot of Fortune, and the exaltation, was exactly in the Ascendant. Transire suum pectus mundoque potiri Quote Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:40 pm
From page 37/172 12 by kubernetes Another example: sun, Mercury in Capricorn, Moon, Saturn in Sagittarius, Jupiter in Cancer, Mars in Virgo, Venus in Aquarius, Ascendant in Libra. The rulers [Jupiter sun] of the triangle [of the sun] were found at angles, but in opposition [MC IC]. Therefore the nativity, though well provided for and prosperous at first, was later found to be exiled and needy because of burning and plunder. The ruler of the Lot of Fortune, Mars, was found in the Place of Accomplishment, but preceding an angle [Ascendant] and in aspect with Saturn [square]. Transire suum pectus mundoque potiri Quote Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:44 pm