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iran -saudi arabia peace deal thanks china

1 by james_m
to me, this is a big deal and like a suez canal type moment.. might be another sign of a shifting from unipolar to multipolar world too... maybe that goes with the move of pluto into aquarius - such a hot topic these days! the issue of the pluto return to the usa charts keeps ringing in my ears... how does all this connect?

but, i can't find a specific time and location for the signing of the papers on friday march 10th... anyone have any specific time for this signing??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%8 ... _relations

held in beijing by the looks of it..

3 by Ouranos
Venus in a waning square to Mars
Where the Venus/Mars conjunction all started at 0 Aqu over the Jupiter/Saturn cycle = New alliances in the world organization. And we note the AS of China early Aquarius.
The cards of the world order have been reshuffled while the Western world has several trump cards (No pun!) in hand, it is far from having all the aces and jokers. China promises peace, while implying that it can be taken by force (Taiwan). This is called 'Chinese medicine'.
Xi Jinping, Ayatollah Khamenei and Mohammed bin Salman, agents of peace???

In the other corner and weighing their pounds, US, Australia and Great Britain launched their cooperation program in nuclear submarines. What else with Pluto over the new alliances. Time for peace and harmony as Venus/Mars says!

Rudhyar says of the waning square that this is an aspect of 'revaluing', a 'crisis in consciousness', not something you can build upon like the waxing square. At the opposition in November 2022, China who, for years, had adopted a low profile in the Middle East changed his ideological initiatives in the midst of protests against Covid from the people.
Blessings!

4 by james_m
ouranos

your post is vague astrologically.. what are you thinking here astrologically?

as for the china bashing - as i said to mark in the barry goodard thread where mark removed the link on saturn-pluto ( and my post addressing it) - voicing western msm propaganda on skyscript is not the place for this.. cheers james

5 by Ouranos
your post is vague astrologically.. what are you thinking here astrologically?
What I am thinking here is
The cycle Jupiter/Saturn represents the world order and the socio-economic cycle. It started in December 2020
It was joined by the cycle Venus/Mars in March 2022 at the same degree, 0 Aquarius.
My reading is that Venus/Mars represents new friendships and alliances which became a smaller cycle within the larger one.
And this is pretty much what we have seen in the dance between the countries.

I am not bashing China, just presenting the 2 forces - East and West creating their alliances. But I am not buying the discourse of China when they say that they do it for "world peace". China, Iran and Saudi Arabia, agents of a new world order? Let me take a deep breath. It is not all black and white but if if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

And to add more fun to the 0 degree of Aquarius, Pluto is invited at the table and we know he is not wearing white gloves.

Best to you,
Ouranos
Blessings!

6 by james_m
ouranos

the 2020 jupiter-saturn conjunction is relevant... highlighting the venus/mars concept seems like stretching it to me, but perhaps you can offer more details as it relates to this significant event... peace initiatives between saudi arabia and iran have been cultivated by different countries - iraq in particular much further back.. it is in most peoples interest to see peace here, although i imagine some countries will want to sabotage it... regardless it is a positive thing and china can claim responsibility for getting the 2 countries to this place which i believe is a positive development..

i think your commentary below is china bashing.. i see too much of it in the western msm today.....our moderator can sort it out..
Ouranos wrote: China promises peace, while implying that it can be taken by force (Taiwan). This is called 'Chinese medicine'.
Xi Jinping, Ayatollah Khamenei and Mohammed bin Salman, agents of peace???

7 by Ouranos
the 2020 jupiter-saturn conjunction is relevant... highlighting the venus/mars concept seems like stretching it to me, but perhaps you can offer more details as it relates to this significant event...
This weekend we had a Venus/Mars square. Where did the conjunction started? At 0 Aquarius, the same degree of the conjunction Jupiter/Saturn. It means that the Venus/Mars cycle is tied to the Jupiter/Saturn for the next 2 years or so. Simple, not stretchy.
regardless it is a positive thing and china can claim responsibility for getting the 2 countries to this place which i believe is a positive development..
We obviously do not have the same reading or the world politics James.
Your comment is your opinion which I respect but I am not sharing it.
Blessings!

8 by james_m
Ouranos wrote:
This weekend we had a Venus/Mars square.
actually we had the sextile! the square was back on feb 5th, over a month ago.. that is the part that confused me.. still does, lol...

here is a chart for the day of the agreement - march 10th, for beijing - noon, in absence of a specific time - yet... this is in sidereal zodiac... it is a fairly close sextile between mars and venus... venus and jupiter are in signs they rule and are exalted in... the moon is close to noon is in opposition to the jupiter-venus conjunction, in a type of very positive yoga by degree and all in keeping with the optimism and positive attitudes associated with a peace agreement... i await a more specific time before i comment further..

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9 by Ouranos
actually we had the sextile! the square was back on feb 5th, over a month ago..
You are right! We are in the last part of the Venus/Mars waning cycle.
But linking it to a 'positive outcome' is a barrier I am not willing to embrace.
You can be successful in killing someone.
What the sextile says in this part of the cycle is 'reorganizing'. Rudhyar says that this refers to the need and latent ability to reorganize understanding having been disrupted by a radical crisis of revaluation at the waning square. Around what set of new or renewed images will reorganization take shape?
(Astrological Aspects, p. 77)
China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, North Korea are totalitarian regimes. No need of astrology to see it.
Blessings!

10 by james_m
in all your fantasies, you almost managed to convert a sextile into a square, lol..

as for the rest of your non astro fantasies based off western msm bs - lets not bother talking about it.. cheers..

11 by Ouranos
in all your fantasies, you almost managed to convert a sextile into a square, lol..
Funny, I never thought that by explaining a phase of the cycle, Rudhyar was converting a sextile into a square. At least, I would not go down that road.
So, you imply good vs bad. Which one is better? A war breaking up under a sextile is good thing if I follow your reasoning.
Blessings!
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