In 'L'astrologie des Interrogations', Robert Ambelain describes the role of Saturn in a horary question.

“In his letter of January 1524, addressed to a follower of Strasbourg, Henri Cornelius Agrippa, the author of the famous “Occult Philosophy???, tells us this: “ Judicia astrorum ex ipsis atque ex nobis sunt...??? Or: “ It is from us as much as from themselves that the language of the Stars proceeds “
(1. Henricus Cornelius AGRIPPA: De Occulta Philosophia libri tres. (S.L. 1551).

And first of all, when should one ask a question?
The answer to a particularly preoccupying question can be given by a Chart, drawn at the precise moment when a cardiac anguish of a particular nature has invincibly drawn the Questioner's attention to this question. There is certainly a strange phenomenon of premonition here. And the enigma of this call coming from who knows where can be solved by the study of the astrological Heaven erected for this moment. (Horary chart)


Agrippa tells us in chapter LX of the First book:
“... of the power of the Melancholic Mood, by which one sometimes brings Daimons into the bodies of Men.???
“ It also happens that not only those who sleep, but also those who are awake, sometimes having their minds freed and moved by these thoughts, guess.
Aristotle calls this divination a 'fury' and wants it to come from the Melancholic Humor, saying in his 'Treatise on Divination': are not long in imagining a thing, and they very easily receive the influences of the Celestial Bodies.
(“Fury??? from the Latin furor, meaning, in its higher sense: transport, enthusiasm, lively impulse, violent desire, sudden and invincible drive. It is this sudden desire to know which is the indication of the favorable moment for a "Question")

In the "Problems", Aristotle tells us again that the Sibyls, the Bacchants, Nicerat of Syracuse, and also Amon, became soothsayers and poets by their own Melancholic Humor.
“If there is therefore in the human body something which causes this divine fury, it is indeed the Melancholic Humor, and not that which is called black bile, which is such a bad and horrible thing. that physicists and physicians affirm that its violence and impetuosity can cause the Evil Daimons to come and besiege human bodies. No, we mean by this Mood Melancholic which is called natural bile, or white bile, which, when kindled, excites that "fury" which leads us to knowledge by divination, especially when this impulse is aided by some celestial influence, particularly from Saturn, which, being cold and dry, as is the Melancholic Humor, influences it daily, increases it, preserves it.
“Besides that, as Saturn is the highest of all the Planets, as he is the instigator of all secret and withdrawn contemplation inciting to flee from public agitation, so he ceaselessly recalls the soul from external activities towards the activities inner things, attracting him from lower things to higher things, communicating to him then the sciences, and, by omens, the knowledge of future events.???

This is what Aristotle means, in his book:
“ By Melancholia, he tells us, there were men who became soothsayers, predicted future things, and others who, differently, became poets. “ Besides this, he also says that all those who have excelled in the sciences have, for the most part, been melancholic.
“ Democritus and Plato are also of this sentiment, saying that there are certain melancholic people who have such vast minds that they seem more gods than men.???

In his book 'Man, the Unknown', Dr. Alexis Carrel gives us some aspects of it:
“We know that the spirit is not fully inscribed in the four dimensions of the physical continuum. It is therefore both in the material universe and "elsewhere". It inserts itself into Matter through the intermediary of the brain, and extends beyond Space and Time, like a seaweed attaches itself to a rock and leaves floating her hair in the mystery of the ocean... “

In the 17th century, the English astrologer William Lilly told us nothing else:
“ When the human soul rises to the maximum of its spiritual possibilities, then it can, dominating and contemplating the course of the stars, draw from it wise and truthful conjectures???
(William LILLY: Christian Astrology, London, 1647.)
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What I am getting from Ambelain is the role of Saturn in a horary question and maybe as a practitioner connecting to our own Saturn and to the Melancholic Humor to be able to address a question with poise, calm and objectivity. But this is a thin line, between being dry and cold and expressing empathy for the querent.
And I am reminded that Rudolf Steiner says that Saturn is the 'bookkeeper' or our actions, past and future.

Thank you for sharing this text, Ouranos.

Could you tell me, please, the exact place of the Lilli quotation in CA?

If I did not clip it - I cannot find it there, neither in 'To the Reader',
nor in 'To the student in ASTROLOGY'.

Thanks in advance!

Johannes,

The reference Ambelain gives is...

William LILLY : Christian Astrology modestly treated of in three Books.
(Londres, 1647.)

No page reference. Also, the text is in French and I translated it with Google so it may not be the exact 'quote' but I think (hopefully), it keeps the spirit of Lilly.
Even with the quotes of Agrippa, they were read from the original source in Latin and then translated in French... to English.

The text also made me think of Saturn in the 7th representing the consultant. When afflicted, does it mean that your judgment is 'off' from the question? Or that 'clarity' is not at the rendez-vous?

Best to you,
Ouranos