Re: Baseball Series: Boston Red Sox @ Toronto Blue Jays 13 by Ouranos The Jays have a stronger position today. Because the game sits in between 2 diurnals more so for the Jays. Caution: The daily Vertex is squaring their natal MC but the daily AS is conjunct their natal Vertex. Blessings! Attachments Blue Jays 17 Sep 2023.png Viewed 40487 times 69.38 KiB Red Sox 17 Sep 2023.png Viewed 40487 times 64.89 KiB Quote Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:19 pm
Re: Baseball Series: Boston Red Sox @ Toronto Blue Jays - Game 3 14 by janegca Looks like our systems are at odds today Ouranos Baseball-20230917-Jays-vs-Red-Sox.png Viewed 40480 times 109.15 KiB Away Team - Challenger - Red Sox L1 Jupiter (superior) retrograde (weak) in 15 Taurus (term and triplicity) in 5th (moderate strength) Jupiter sep sextile Venus in 8th (accidents, injuries) Jupiter applying to no one 5th (team morale) critical at 29º AR, Mars (L5) in 10th (honor) Mars (L5) and Jupiter in mitigated inconjunct in like engirding signs so power of opposition Home Team - Defender - Blue Jays L7 Mercury (inferior) in 8 Virgo in 9th (cadent=weak); plus its intercepted (needs the stress of events to bring it out, another weakness?) Moon applying square Pluto in 2nd (Boston's reserves; team won't go away(?)) Mercury applying to trine Jupiter (L1) Mars is L4 (Jay's 10th) and is in Boston's 10th (Boston controls Jays "honor") 11th (Jays 6th ability to move base runners(?)) critical at 29º Libra, Venus in 8th (Jays 2nd teams reserves; not as much fight as Boston?) Probable Outcome: Giving the edge to Boston as Jupiter has the stronger position (succedent) versus Mercury (cadent) and Mars, as ruler of the 4th (Jays 10th), is in Boston's 10th; a debility according to Bonatti. Plus, Boston will probably fight hard (Mars, also Pluto in 2nd) to avoid a sweep; try to take advantage of Jays problem with moving runners. Quote Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:17 pm
Re: Baseball Series: Boston Red Sox @ Toronto Blue Jays 15 by Ouranos Considering the length of the game yesterday, Brady quotes Bonatti "Bonatti tells us that the weaker the Moon is in a war chart, the longer and more difficult is the battle.." The Moon was cadent in Libra conjunct Mars. A bloody war so to speak and many substitutions. Have you found this to be true in the charts you have looked at? Blessings! Quote Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:59 pm
Re: Baseball Series: Boston Red Sox @ Toronto Blue Jays 16 by janegca Ouranos wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:59 pm Considering the length of the game yesterday, Brady quotes Bonatti "Bonatti tells us that the weaker the Moon is in a war chart, the longer and more difficult is the battle.." The Moon was cadent in Libra conjunct Mars. A bloody war so to speak and many substitutions. Have you found this to be true in the charts you have looked at? Hi Ouranos, Kudos for todays win. As to your question, no, I can't say I've notice that but neither have I looked for it. Quote Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:01 pm
Re: Baseball Series: Boston Red Sox @ Toronto Blue Jays - Jays win 2-3 17 by janegca Kudo's to Ouranos for getting this right, I got it wrong, Jays won with a walk off double in the bottom of the 9th. Can't see what I misread, the chart was similar to yesterday's except that then it was L1 (Boston) in the 4th (Jay's 10th) while today it was L4 (the Jays' 10th house ruler) in the 10th (Boston's honor). Possibly the ruler of a team's 10th in the the others 10th is not as big a debility as the ruler of the team's 1st in the other's 10th. No game tomorrow. Only 12 games left in the season. Jays go on the road to NY for 3 then to Tampa for 3 then back home to play another 3 each against the same teams. Quote Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:09 pm
Re: Baseball Series: Boston Red Sox @ Toronto Blue Jays 18 by Ouranos Thank you Janegca! Feel free to post your analysis for the games against the Yankees. Have you tested your system with hockey games? What I know is let's say a game is scheduled for 7pm but the puck is dropped at 7:15pm. What time would you use 7pm or 7:15pm? Every sport has a different setup. Can you tell me what you have found looking at the Moon last and next aspect? Or the Moon general condition in the event chart? Always a pleasure to read your comments and analysis Janegca! Ouranos Blessings! Quote Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:10 pm
Re: Baseball Series: Boston Red Sox @ Toronto Blue Jays 19 by janegca Ouranos wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:10 pm Have you tested your system with hockey games? What I know is let's say a game is scheduled for 7pm but the puck is dropped at 7:15pm. What time would you use 7pm or 7:15pm? Every sport has a different setup. Hi Ouranos, no, if memory serves me right, I think I tried hockey years back using Frawley and possibly with Doris Chase Doane's "Contest Chart" rules (can't rightly remember). I might have tried using the Lee and Brady recommendations but I honestly can't recall. Personally I'd used the "puck drop" as the angles appear to be super important in this Bonatti/Brady system especially if planets are near the cusps. Ouranos wrote: Can you tell me what you have found looking at the Moon last and next aspect? Or the Moon general condition in the event chart? Still trying to figure that out. The type of aspect appears to be important as does the house position of the assisting planet. And based on the Texas game when "Moon applied to Jupiter" which is given to the home team, it was of no help, possibly because Jupiter was the ruler the first and so represented the away team. Good luck with your next picks. Jane Quote Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:05 pm
Re: Baseball Series: Boston Red Sox @ Toronto Blue Jays 20 by Ouranos Still trying to figure that out. The type of aspect appears to be important as does the house position of the assisting planet. And based on the Texas game when "Moon applied to Jupiter" which is given to the home team, it was of no help, possibly because Jupiter was the ruler the first and so represented the away team. Hypothesis: Is it possible that the Moon rules both teams (or the game itself) as the Moon rules everything unless the Moon rules one team (1st or 7th House). Let me rewrite Morin de Villefranche applied to baseball game it that's possible In a fortunate house, if a benefic planet is followed by another benefic, this indicates that the good produced by the house affairs will be stable. (You take the lead and keep it). If the benefic is followed by a malefic, the fortune acquired will be lost. (You loose). If a malefic Planet rules in the House in which falls one of its malefic aspects, and this House is fortunate, this aspect, although malefic, will exert a favorable but also violent effect which will be followed ultimately by some disgrace or misfortune. (You loose). In an unfortunate house, a benefic followed by another benefic indicates that the misfortune will not be realized, or if it is, in an extremely limited way. (You win by a short margin). If a benefic is followed by a malefic, however, the lost signified by the house will certainly occur, but the native will escape it. (Here a team takes the lead and gradually looses it but not entirely). If a malefic is followed by another malefic, the misfortunes caused will be very serious and the native will never escape them. (You loose). Just extending here. It needs to be verified. Blessings! Quote Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:26 pm
Re: Baseball Series: Boston Red Sox @ Toronto Blue Jays 21 by janegca Ouranos wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:26 pm Hypothesis: Is it possible that the Moon rules both teams (or the game itself) as the Moon rules everything unless the Moon rules one team (1st or 7th House). [\quote] Hi Ouranos, Bonatti does use her as if she has a general influence on the battle as a whole, for example he says if the Moon is angular and rules the house she's in it will be a small war, moderate if she doesn't rule the house. Ouranos wrote: Let me rewrite Morin de Villefranche applied to baseball game it that's possible. In a fortunate house, if a benefic planet is followed by another benefic, this indicates that the good produced by the house affairs will be stable. (You take the lead and keep it). If the benefic is followed by a malefic, the fortune acquired will be lost. (You loose). If a malefic Planet rules in the House in which falls one of its malefic aspects, and this House is fortunate, this aspect, although malefic, will exert a favorable but also violent effect which will be followed ultimately by some disgrace or misfortune. (You loose). In an unfortunate house, a benefic followed by another benefic indicates that the misfortune will not be realized, or if it is, in an extremely limited way. (You win by a short margin). If a benefic is followed by a malefic, however, the lost signified by the house will certainly occur, but the native will escape it. (Here a team takes the lead and gradually looses it but not entirely). If a malefic is followed by another malefic, the misfortunes caused will be very serious and the native will never escape them. (You loose). Just extending here. It needs to be verified. Well, looking at the above rules, (for the Jays @ Yankees game) the Moon is in an unfortunate house for the Jays (8th) separating from a benefic (Venus) and applying to a malefic (Uranus) -- Jays start off with a good lead and it diminishes but they pull off the game? For the Yankees, the Moon is in a semi-fortunate house (8th = their 2nd, their resources) -- Yankees overcome Jays lead but then give it back and so loose the game? Interesting idea...let's see if the game play matches either scenario -- in which case we will both "lose" but the Jays will win and I will be happy Quote Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:23 pm