wei

what do your tropical ingress charts suggest? have you done them for tehran or tel aviv?

I'm currently feeling quite frustrated.

I'd like to use AstroCartography to see where (countries) the Mars line (or any planetary lines) falls when looking at the four ingress charts .

I'm not yet sure how to set up AstroCartography for ingress charts ( what's time and location?).

For the Spring Equinox chart of Tel Aviv in 2023, Mars is in the 7th house, with the Moon conjunct Neptune, and Mars in a challenging aspect with Neptune.

In the Autumn Equinox chart of Tel Aviv in 2023, Mars is in the 12th house, encountering ambush. Additionally, Mars is conjunct the South Node, which is a point of explosive release.

I feel that the real turmoil may occur after the Winter Solstice in 2023, as Mars enters the 1st house in challenging aspect with Neptune (in Tel Aviv).

However, it seems that Arab nations might experience division due to the Venus opposition with Uranus, with Venus representing Islam.

I hope that both conflicts (Ukraine-Russia and Israel-Hamas) will gradually subside between the Summer Solstice of 2024 and 2025 when Mars and Saturn respectively conjoin the North Node.

The above analysis is speculative and not to be taken as a definitive forecast.

I also intend to examine the solar arcs of Israel and Iran's founding charts, but I currently lack the time and resources to gather the relevant information.

Hello Wei,

I'm not yet sure how to set up AstroCartography for ingress charts ( what's time and location?)

Time is when the Sun Ingress at location of Tel-Aviv.
You can do a bi-wheel (Ingress and Israel)

For the chart of Israel, Isaac Starkman posted a rectification chart by Alexander Marr
https://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12225

14 May 1948
16h15:07 EET (14h15:07 UT)
Tel-Aviv, Israel
ASC 26Lib 15

Ouranos

tel aviv libra ingress chart.. ruler of ascendant in the 12th, and ruler of 12th on the midheaven.. ruler of 2/5 on the descendant.



tehran libra ingress chart.. ruler of ascendant also in the 12th, ruler of whole sign 3/4 houses on the ic... uranus also on the descendant..



here is my quick take... because mars as ruler of the ascendant is weak in both charts, also the malefic in a diurnal chart, this madness continues... a poorly placed mars is more indicative of what is happening here then a well placed one.. the 9th house ruler using whole house systems - moon - is also poorly placed, so taking the higher road will not be happening.. personally i don't think this is a war chart, but more of a messed up poorly expressed mars chart... hopefully this madness will end soon.. my take.. would be good to do an ingress chart for washington dc, because without daddy warbucks this wouldn't be happening..

Hello Ouranos,

Thank you !

My idea is to create something similar to a solar or lunar eclipse chart , their visible regions.

In other words, rather than predefining a location, it would start at the moment of the Sun's entry into Aries and then determine which areas the Mars line passes through.

usa libra ingress chart 2023.. ruler of the ascendant and midheaven in the 3rd whole sign, both problematic given the sign placement.. venus-jupiter square involved with the ascendant with saturn in the 8th sign.. midheaven degree is close to nodal axis and as memory serves, there was an eclipse on this degree earlier in the year? perhaps the tropical zodiac astrologers can chime in? mercury, ruler of 2/11 houses is strong in its own sign.. ruler of 12th in the 6th...



here is the solar hybrid eclipse for april 2023 set to washington.. eclipse degree is 29 aries 50.. midheaven of the libra eclipse is 29 aries/libra 23.. the midheaven degree of the hybrid eclipse is very close to the position of mars in the libra ingress charts as well.. coincidence i guess..

Israel Natal
Sun conjunct Kronos square Zeus
The status of Israel is undisputable as a powerful country military, politically and economically. The square is present for people or countries born in the 40's.
But we also find Zeus in the midpoint
Zeus = Mars/Saturn
Quarrels and grave enemities that are never forgotten. Death through fire-arms.
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Hades opp ASC and sq MC
Sun = Uranus/Hades
War atrocities. Days on which danger lurks.
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Transiting Uranus on the powerful combination Sun/Kronos squaring Zeus.
And a Grand-Square being formed by transiting Pluto triggered by the transit of Mars and the NM Eclipse early October.
Activating natal Hades on the cusp of the 7th House and Solar Arc Saturn/Pluto = AS MC

Hello Ouranos ,

It's quite intriguing that you mentioned Saturn/Pluto. Saturn represents extreme cold, while Pluto is the extreme of extremes. Perhaps we can imagine Saturn/Pluto as the permafrost of Alaska?

Reinhold Ebertin provides an example: A mother gave birth to a stone baby (Lithopedion), and the midpoint configuration is Saturn/Pluto=Mars/Jupiter=Sun/Midheaven.

Interestingly, this time, Mars and Pluto aligning with the NM solar eclipse managed to break through Israel's impenetrable defenses (Saturn/Pluto midpoint).

Hello James_m ,

I also have a feeling that the conflict won't escalate further, as the Mars square Neptune aspect may suggest a lot of posturing and bluster. However, Neptune's association with religion introduces some uncertainty. If it involves religion, I can't be so sure.

I'll continue to observe.

Thank you for your response.

Wei wrote

In other words, rather than predefining a location, it would start at the moment of the Sun's entry into Aries and then determine which areas the Mars line passes through.

Solar Fire has an option called Solar Maps but I don't like it somehow, too cloudy, not accurate enough.

On Astro-Seek, Petr Soural and friends have some nice options.
https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/astro ... relocation

You can also use AstroClick Travel on Astro.com
https://www.astro.com/free/free_locational_e.htm

To investigate a specific location, you can use
1) the vertical lines (Longitude) crossing
2) the horizontal lines (Latitude) where anywhere on that line where you have a crossing of 2 planets, there is an influence at that latitude in the World.

Each Vernal Point (Capricorn, Aries, Cancer and Libra) have a different meaning. as they define the Earth Axis and the Earth Horizon.
Ludwig Rudolph wrote a book on the subject 'Meaning of the planets in the Houses' - Houses here meaning the zodiacal signs in relationship to the Vernal Points.

And yes, Saturn/Pluto is an interesting midpoint. We have had enough evidence during the Covid to know what these 2 planets together can bring.

Wei wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:41 am


I also have a feeling that the conflict won't escalate further, as the Mars square Neptune aspect may suggest a lot of posturing and bluster. However, Neptune's association with religion introduces some uncertainty. If it involves religion, I can't be so sure.

I'll continue to observe.

Sad to say that it looks entirely possible that it could escalate as early as the weekend of October 27th-28th. The Mars-Jupiter opposition could be a bit of a gamble to take so that fits and the Mars- Saturn sesquisquare is about to perfect in the chart below (Uranus station).

Also Okyrhoe is on the Aries point.

Okyrhoe indicates being criticized or attacked, being able to cope with attacks or unpopularity, and the ability to stand up for one’s beliefs or principles.

Sounds a bit like Netanyahu - thick-skinned.

In Uranian astrology, the formula for war expansion is
Zeus + Kronos - Apollon which currently sits at 25 Scorpio.
Apollon means expansion.
But tomorrow, we do have a planetary picture with Apollon
SU/MA = AP = ME
This suggests someone who gets angry and vindictive in words beyond the scope of a normal discussion. Has other meanings also like being active in commercial and scientific world or signing a contract for expansion. Can be very good for planets like Jupiter around 5 degrees of Fixed signs or 20 degrees of Mutable.

Greg Young wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:58 am Sad to say that it looks entirely possible that it could escalate as early as the weekend of October 27th-28th. The Mars-Jupiter opposition could be a bit of a gamble to take so that fits and the Mars- Saturn sesquisquare is about to perfect in the chart below (Uranus station).

Yes, covert ground operations.