united nations - antonio guterres - are they both on the way out to be replaced by something better? 1 by james_m maybe something better, or something more reflective of the world 78 years on is what i am getting at... https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Hi ... ed_Nations the above link has the chart in tropical... below is the chart in sidereal krisnamurti ayanamsa.... both charts have the mars-saturn conjunction in cancer.. this is interesting to me as one thinks of the mars-saturn as conflictual... the ancient astrologers put emphasis on the conjunction in cancer as the beginning of a cycle of significance.. the fact it shows up in the chart for the un is interesting.. maybe those who are knowledgeable about the role of the conjunction in cancer, can comment more on this.. it was their 78th birthday yesterday... the solar return for 2023 is shown below.. the chart reflects some of the dynamic that have been happening in the transits the past week... 2 attempts to get a un resolution for a ceasefire have been turned down.. the first one was introduced by russia on monday oct 16th as memory serves, and it was turned down... a resolution proposed by brazil on wednesday oct 18th looked promising, but although it was 14 for and 1 against, it was not unanimous.. i will let you guess the dissenting party.. it would seem the outstanding transit reflected in the solar return is the nodal axis approaching the ascendant axis of the un chart.. as it turns out the natal chart and the solar return ascendant degrees are very similar, so what is shown in the solar return is reflected in the natal chart like transits to the natal chart.. the chart below is for antonio guterres.. first the adb link where it is shown in tropical.. https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Guterres,_Antonio here is the chart in sidereal.. the angles in both guterres and un chart are aligned in a similar manner... gutteres ascendant degree in sag is close to the degree of ketu, in the 10th whole sign house - sag.. both have a moon in taurus.. gutteres neptune is conjunct un jupiter which might explain the more humanitarian angle here for its leader.. the transiting nodal axis is in a type of nodal axis return to guterres chart and it happens to line up with his midhaven axis with the south node on the midheaven - north node on the ic. point.. it is out of sign, but will back up into pisces very shortly.. the eclipse cycles imply the various solar and lunar eclipses in the next year will be hitting the angles of both the un and guterres chart... here is a biwheel of the synastry with un chart on the inside and guterres chart on the outside for you to see it better... here is a link of guterres commentary to the un security council on the middle east on the 78th anniversary of the un yesterday... https://www.un.org/sg/en/content/sg/spe ... east%C2%A0 Quote Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:57 pm
Re: united nations - antonio guterres - are they both on the way out to be replaced by something better? 2 by james_m i need to qualify my title - the ''replaced by something better'' was in reference to the present set up at the un where any 1 of the 5 countries have veto power over whether a resolution will be passed or not - russia, china, usa, france or britian.. those 5 have veto power over any resolution and if any of them say no - the resolution doesn't pass... i wasn't referring to antonio guterres in my statement.. that's all... if anyone can think of a better way to word it - let me know and i will change the title.. thanks.. Quote Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:18 pm