13 by Tumbling Sphinx Hi Wangshan, Thanks for your generous words. Yes, China condemned the airstrike, but as I understand their position has been to demand an apology, call for an immediate ceasefire and seek diplomatic resolution to this conflict - their observer was one of 4 killed, the three others representatives of other nations. As a financial/economic heavy-weight I think China would be more inclined to bring pressure to bear via other means for a diplomatic resolution, rather than any immediate retaliatory act. While this matter in Middle East is obviously of a very serious concern, I'd also be considering what's transpiring in their relationship with North Korea. Did you have a particular chart for China in mind? Some other observations in this current situation that may be worth considering as the tr Saturn-Neptune rx opposition approaches on 31 August are: - 31 August is also the date just recently set by UN Security Council for Iran to stop nuclear activities, or face possible sanctions. Iran data: 3:00pm in Tehran on 1 April, 1979 (source: Nicholas Campion Book of World Horoscopes). - Israel has nuclear weapons but is one of few states to refuse to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and refused international inspection of the Dimona facility. Israel data: 14 May, 1948 at 4:32pm in Tel Aviv (source: Nic Campian). Note nSaturn at 16 Leo in 10 - this upcoming trSat-Nep rx opposition straddles 10-4 axis and trSaturn will go on to directly challenge this chart's Sun. May also be worth noting while President Bush has defended Israel's right to defend itself, Israel's nuclear weapon development is reportedly strictly for "defensive" and non-aggressive purposes. For Israel's nuclear capability and possible use of unknown chemicals in current action, ref: -http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/index.html -http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/Isrhist.html -http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/use-of ... 21252.html - This trSaturn & Neptune rx on 31 August, 2006 may also be worth considering in light of New York Stock Exchange foundation (17 May, 1792 approx. time used of 10am - if you have a better time/chart that would be appreciated) in view of Iran's intended opening of the Iranian Oil Bourse on Kish. On Aug. 31 tr Neptune rx will be inconjunct (aspect = serious adjustment) this NYSE chart's Mars, which for 10 am time Mars is posited in 2nd & rules Aries MC. Note, Neptune is rx (has been from about 22 May) which can suggest a 'build-up' of sorts, in Aquarius there can be a 'radical' quality, it turns direct around 29 October, 2006. I'm sorry, I'm not in a position to delve into this with any depth just at the moment - as time frees up I'll attempt to revisit - but if you or anyone else has opportunity to consider and comment on these charts etc in light of current affairs that would be great, and appreciated. Best wishes, TS. Quote Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:02 pm
14 by Tumbling Sphinx ... forgot to mention, if following this, then would also suggest: - observing Moon as it waxes to Full at 16 Aquarius on August 9 [opposite the Israel chart's Saturn] - this suggesting a peak or a turning point for public as well as those out of gvt (the 'opposition') mood/disenfranchisement with assertion of authority [Full Moon can = 'fed up'] also flags potential increase in need among extremist groups to take matters into own hands with public announcements to that effect on these matters; - followed by Mars transiting to inconjunct tr Neptune rx (adjustment in military effort) on August 20 followed by New Moon at 0 Virgo on August 23. Quote Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:47 pm
15 by granny_skot Well congrats on seeing the Trigger! Very good, I had thought it would be the Venus pass, but you were right on, Mercury conj Saturn Next Sunday, I wonder if it will trigger yet more stress. Granny Quote Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:39 pm
16 by Tumbling Sphinx Thanks, Granny. I have tr Merc conjunct Saturn on 21st Aug (?) ... possibly more stress (& news from Iran on uranium issue), but does seem indicative of new strategy among the administrators of this military effort - the return of the military while new strategic direction/orders are planned. The military strike didn't accomplish the agenda, nor did it succeed in drawing in the neighboring nations at whom fingers were being pointed as was anticipated I don't think. New Moon is in Virgo, may see new (or revised/recalcuated) strategy emerge and pick up pace as it transits Mars and waxes square at opposition on 31st - the deadline on uranium issue (which looks like a foreshadowing of what's yet to come - Saturn retrogrades back to opposition around 1st March 07) leading into the partial lunar eclipse of 7th Sept which also sees Mars conjoining AP - Libra 00. Also possibility of further news concerning Ariel Sharon's health around then (partial lunar eclipse) I'd think, if not before. Quote Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:15 pm
17 by granny_skot I've been thinking that Virgo is where a lot of the action should be seen? since the opposition perfects on 1 september, when Sun, Mars and Mercury will all be in Virgo, and its bringing back stressfull recolections of last 1st of September, I'm thinking a look at where the planets are hitting the fixed stars might be in order to see what other info might be forthcoming? Mars will be at 25 Virgo which is Square Pluto, Pluto isn't exactly Trine SAturn, but is within 6 degrees of Trine, so SAturn will move from Opposition to Trine (end of November) and then Rx.... Busy Autumn? Granny Quote Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:04 pm
18 by Tumbling Sphinx Hi Granny, "I've been thinking that Virgo is where a lot of the action should be seen?" Yes, and the pointing of fingers towards Iranian authorities (Iran's Saturn is in Virgo), and as Sun enters Virgo it's on the trail of Mars ... but I'd be inclined to also keep an eye on this tr Mars as it conjoins AP at 00Libra, Libra on 12th house of Israel's chart and where nNeptune is posited. In addition, PM Olmert has significant placements in Libra. And as Mercury conjoins Saturn opposing Neptune, we're seeing a proliferation of propaganda (or spin-doctoring to serve another purpose) on news/figures etc being realeased. At time of opposition, may reach a peak (just as more solid figures might be forthcoming) but I'd watch Mercury as it then travels forward to inconjunct Neptune for a significant adjustment in what's being reported etc. "I'm thinking a look at where the planets are hitting the fixed stars might be in order to see what other info might be forthcoming?" Absolutely, I think that's always worthwhile. If you take a look back to the 10th Aug, following Full Moon, you'll find Moon was applying to square Fixed Star Algol as the typhoon hit China ... since then the toll reported has been rising. In addition, Britain's Security Service raised alert level at 2am Thursday 10th, also at time Moon was applying to square Fixed Star Algol ... which for 2am London chart was posited in 12th, the behind-the-scenes threat of death (extreme wipeout) to many, many lives before "home intelligence" intercepted the threat ... however in this instance the mounting toll appears to be more financial, noting the 2-8 axis emphasis. Yes, I'd think a busy Autumn. Best wishes, TS Quote Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:47 pm
19 by granny_skot intersting notes for you today, http://news.yahoo.com/fc/US/September_11_Anniversary/ release of 911 calls to public possible connection to the Mercury pass 25 Virgo is Copula, Mars there and also where south node will be when Saturn opposition occurs. the oppositionoccurs exactly aligned with Al terf, 17 Leo 52, the mouth of the lion, I'm looking for more info on that ... somehow Roar, Explosion, etc. come to mind. Pluto aligned with Lesath, Tail ofScorpion (attack from behind?) calamity, Seizer, Smiter, The Curved, Associated with the lightning struck tower. also related to a root? Sun aligned with Alioth (Bears tail) (attack from behind?) the mourners, the Very Bright Light, The chariot - Triumph (for who?) neptune with Delphinus - the Bright ones - Knights of the sea, Ingratitude? Venus - trine Pluto - ligned with Subra, the lions knee? Quote Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:56 pm
20 by granny_skot interestingly Jupiter and Uranus trine this week as well? suprising judicial manuevre? some benefit through chaos? the levee's will hold? what? Granny Quote Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:23 pm
21 by MzLoretta On the home front, I associate the Neptune/Saturn opposition with the current real estate market taking a nose dive. Real estate has become the new stock market, and it has made California, among other economies, more of a "mono-economy". That being said, the seemingly solid Saturnian realm of "home investment" is getting the Neptune treatment! It should be interesting to see what happens in real estate over the next few years. the secret of happiness involves ducks & ukuleles Quote Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:48 pm
22 by amandaW On the home front, I associate the Neptune/Saturn opposition with the current real estate market taking a nose dive. Yes, and it has been complicated by the Jupiter square- in UK one day they talk about a contraction , next day an expansion in the market. All right on cue. I love it! I'm looking forward to Jupiter departing and leaving the field clear for Neptune and Saturn to fight it out...pssssssssssssssss.. is that the sound of a bubble deflating that I hear ? Quote Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:56 pm
23 by MzLoretta Very good observation, Amelia! Yes, Jupiter is definitely turning up the volume on the whole Saturn/Neptune action. It's interesting to hear what's happening in the UK. I'm headed back to Oregon, now that I've finally convinced my family to flee the land of million dollar tract homes here in Northern California and move with me. Where I used to live in Oregon wages are comprable to California, and housing costs are about half price!! Cheers, ML the secret of happiness involves ducks & ukuleles Quote Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:22 am
24 by Monk The Neptune/Saturn opposition seemed to be active today, 18th September 2006, near the town of Kandahar, Afghanistan, Lat. 31*N36, 65*E42'. Quote from B.B.C. report:- "A suicide bomber has killed at least four Canadians in an attack on a Nato patrol in the southern province of Kandahar. Police said a number of civilians were also hurt when the bomber rode a bicycle laden with explosives into a crowd of troops and children." This happened about 9:30am. local time. Neptune and Saturn arent far from the M.C./I.C. Quote Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:37 pm