Ouranos wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:46 pm

Do you look for a Jupiter link when you are doing midpoints?

Yes, Jupiter

You can check out the technique I am using
https://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11821
I now include the TNPs

Ouranos wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:46 pm

Do you look for a Jupiter link when you are doing midpoints?

Yes, Jupiter

You can check out the technique I am using
https://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11821
I now include the TNPs

Ouranos wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:32 am Cupido is a Trans-Neptunian planet

Would you say Jupiter, Cupido aspects are paramount? Only good aspects?

Ouranos wrote:

As with the favorite winning, what indicators in the chart would tell this?

Of all the factors, Uranus (upset, surprise) and Neptune (deception) seems to be the 2 planets disrupting a favorite, especially when Angular or connected to the Angles or planets in hard aspects to these 2
A race is a snapshot in time of the crowd reaction.
So this is why you can look at
A/M = at this moment and place (This angle is pretty reliable)
MO/AS = to be brought into the eyes of the public by others
MO/MC = emotions in the crowd.

Ouranos wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:17 pm

Would you say Jupiter, Cupido aspects are paramount? Only good aspects?

No, use all aspects. Good and bad aspects are a wrong way of looking at it.
Hard aspects = manifestation, materialization (2,4,8,16th Harmonic)
Soft aspects = stability, constancy (3,6,9, 12th Harmonic)
And what you find in the midpoint
Example:
Sun/Jupiter = success
SU/JU = MA = successful activity
SU/JU = CU = successful marriage or art creation
SU/JU = UR = sudden success

For the event chart. Would I also look at the harmonic? What harmonic would I have to look for and what aspects let's say if I wanted to see if an outsider would win in an horse race?

Ouranos wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:34 am

For the event chart. Would I also look at the harmonic? What harmonic would I have to look for and what aspects let's say if I wanted to see if an outsider would win in an horse race?

Harmonics 2 (opp),4 (sqr) ,8 (semi-sqr, sesqui-sqr).. and 16
But the more you go up, they have to have a relationship in the lower harmonics.

If you want to see if an outsider would win is not the proper approach.
First and foremost, Is your chart showing up that you are a winner on a specific day?
If you win on a lucky day, don't make it a system, it does not exist. Look at your chart
If you win on a lucky day, whatever choice you make will end up being right, look at your chart.
If you loose on an unlucky day, don't look at your system, look at your chart.
If you loose on a lucky day, look at your chart.

In all cases, your chart is your system. You are the system.
It just happened that I have made a lot of research on midpoints and diurnals, That is the system I have chosen for me but it is not any better than someone else using colors or numbers of the horses. And not really important. Any system to pick up an outsider is only relevant when you are lucky.
It would be easy to play every day when the MC comes in touch with your Jupiter but that's not how the universe works.

In those harmonic charts, what planets would I look for a relationship for in a opposition, square?

Ouranos wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:11 pm

In those harmonic charts, what planets would I look for a relationship for in a opposition, square?

That would be too long to explain. Please review the post I did on winning with midpoints and diurnals. You have plenty of example on how to work with it.
Read 'The Art of Forecasting using Diurnal Charts' by Sophia Mason.
And work around your natal Jupiter and Jupiter midpoints.
Every chart is different, you need to identify the lucky placements in your chart.
The point I am trying to make here Vas is that you are not isolated from your birth chart as if you could predict the long-shots all the time. On a lucky day, you will be right. Otherwise, stay home. Astrology is only helpful to 'recognize' that you have a fair to good chance of winning on a specific day. But you are playing against the odds. Did you make sure everything has been reviewed carefully in your preparation? Maybe you did not see Saturn or Neptune awaiting around the corner.
Let me tell you a story.
I was once at a racetrack and zoomed in to a long-shot to come in first. In his last 3 races, he had finished the last quarter like a bullet. But he was competing against better horses. Could he repeat or maybe improve in this field?
I started to wager all kind of fancy bets in the Trifecta with this horse first and another horse to come in 2nd or 3rd and the rest of the field in any position.
Now, the teller at the mutual window told me that my 2nd choice had been removed from the race. And it was 15 seconds before the start. He suggested another horse. I said yes but I returned to my place thinking that I had messed up the whole thing.
End result: My long-shot came in first, the horse suggested by the teller came in 2nd and the rest of the field. I won!!! But not according to my scenario but with a helpful hand of Heaven. No matter how fancy you think you can be with the stars, you can forget altogether astrology when God is pointing his finger at you.
And for the record, I haven't been to a racetrack in the past 30 years. But I still enjoy watching major events like the Triple Crown. It is a good way to learn how astrology works.

Best to you,
Ouranos

The favourite won at the grand national, I think moon was voc.

15 may 2024, 15.55pm, York, England. A firm favourite won, what could the chart indicate that a favourite won?

Ouranos wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 11:11 am

The favourite won at the grand national, I think moon was voc.

15 may 2024, 15.55pm, York, England. A firm favourite won, what could the chart indicate that a favourite won?

What longitude and latitude did you use?
The MO was not VOC, it was applying to square JU ??
Name of the winner?