Kronos (Κρονος) was the King of the Titanes and the God of Time (khronos) in Greek mythology. His counterpart or Roman name is Saturn.
Kronos is an important placement to watch for those in power or seeking power.

"Mastery and excellence. Of high quality, above average. Professional. Management. High-level position, authority. The ruling powers, heads of state or companies. The presidential power. Bureaucracy, hierarchies. Authoritative, honorable, dignified. Independent." (Meira B. Epstein)

"The dark side of Kronos is the raw abuse of power and leadership. This is a person who wants power OVER others, not empowering the people beneath them. The school 'bully'. "(Eileen Nauman)

Remember: Good or bad is determined by the planets and midpoints involved
---------------------- Looking at Kronos in Donald Trump's chart, we see Kronos
- square Zeus To assert oneself at all costs. To play the overlord.
- sesqui-quadrate Neptune Master of deception. Incompetent management. Confusion, annulment of decrees. Loss of power.
- Zeus semi-square Neptune To resign, mighty deception. Power comes from hidden sources.

In the midpoint
Admetos/Vulcanus stands for buffets of fate, mighty hindrance, stoppage, congestion, jamming, heaviness.

Admetos/Vulcanus
=Kronos To be noted through something extraordinary. To draw attention through unusual events and odd and peculiar fateful occurences.
=Zeus Hindered in work by obstacles, a difficult beginning is forcibly aggravated by others
=Neptune A change in the form of being works out in a very unfortunate way for the native.
= SU/JU Firmness of character can lead to escape great blows of fate (This is the only positive aspect in the planetary picture. Will it be enough?)
= SA/CU Separation by force majeure or by the state.
= HA/AP Sudden mean acts as a consequence of previous mistakes.
= SA/UR Sudden separation and loss

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In total, he has 91 charges in court.
Now Uranus as we speak currently transits over this position which translates to
=To suddenly face a hopeless struggle with obstacles, that prove to be fateful.

All transits at 20 Fix - 5 Cardinal mark another chapter to unfold the scenario he is facing.
Upcoming Lunations phases set for Washington, we see something important happening with Jupiter joining Uranus and semi-square Venus in the NM of April 2024.
A lucky break for Trump or misfortune?

Note: all interpretations taken from the Rulebook

Ouranos wrote: Upcoming Lunations phases set for Washington, we see something important happening with Jupiter joining Uranus and semi-square Venus in the NM of April 2024.
A lucky break for Trump or misfortune?

After his recent foray into the footwear world, perhaps this is a surprise announcement of a clothing line? ; )

Joking aside, it looks to be a sudden breakthrough (uranus/jupiter) involving a woman or women (venus). Help or hindrance? Hard to say with Uranus involved, in my opinion.

When looking at these indications through a Uranian lens, does the way the traditional nativity is set up come into play at all? Or the natal half-sums & pictures? In the same way that, for instance, what a planet indicates in the radix is activated by timing techniques?
(editing to add:) Maybe you've explained this above? If so, that's on me. I get a bit lost in the way Uranian delineations are presented.

Interesting stuff, Ouranos.

The question we must try to answer is whether he will be allowed to stand for President and, indeed, whether Mr.Biden is also allowed to by the Democrats. Both would seem to have a few drawbacks. In this respect I thought Kenneth Bowser's interpretation was a tad presumptuous in assuming that both would challenge each other. We live in tumultuous times!

Jason,
If we read this strictly from the planets combinations, we get something like VE (friendly) JU (assistance, justice) suggesting that the Supreme Court might plead in favor of Trump. But his midpoint structure of Kronos is so heavy in the midpoint Vulcanus (force or coercion)/ Admetos (stuck in the past) that it is hard to believe that even a transit of Jupiter will indicate a lucky break for him. But maybe I am wrong altogether or should I say, I am uncertain at this point. Not to forget that his MC is not too far.
The lens of traditional can surely be integrated to get a fuller picture or even a different viewpoint if that's the case.


Greg,
Yes the question is whether he will be allowed to stand for President. That's why I am focusing on a short-term chapter in the next election and the lunation of April might provide an answer to that.
Fast-forward in November, my focus would be on the midpoint SU/KR and see which candidate has the strongest activation but I am not there yet.

On second thought, if we isolate the transit of Uranus over his Kronos = Sun/Jupiter, the Rulebook says 'Ruling through sudden wealth. A fortune through wealth of others', which seems to fit well the quick victories in the republican primaries.
Which is a good way to consider that both possibilities, victory and his trials are manifested at the same time.
Let's not forget that they do not cancel out each other.
The question is 'Will this luck extend with the Higher Court?'

Ouranos wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:58 am On second thought, if we isolate the transit of Uranus over his Kronos = Sun/Jupiter, the Rulebook says 'Ruling through sudden wealth. A fortune through wealth of others', which seems to fit well the quick victories in the republican primaries.
Which is a good way to consider that both possibilities, victory and his trials are manifested at the same time.
Let's not forget that they do not cancel out each other.
The question is 'Will this luck extend with the Higher Court?'

Aha!

I don't understand why you waste so much time and effort crunching Trump's chart. Are you so obsessed with him becasue you're scared he will be reelected?
How about trying to be more practical by using Uranian astrology the right way?
Threre's that famous planetary picture Mercury+Kronos-Jupiter meaning 'Taking the oath'.
Now, as a real Uranian Astrologer, all you have to do is find a candidate who has this solar arc directed combination hitting a personal natal point ( like Sun or Moon) around the day of the expected inauguration for the next president of the USA (Jan 20th 2025?).

Gavin Newsom, for example (who has the natal chart of a real cruel tyrant and dictator with Pluto and Mars sitting smack on his natal angles) will have transit Jupiter right on his natal Midheaven (and PoF) on the day of the elections (Nov 5th 2024?).
The 'solar arc directed 'take the oath' planetary picture mentioned above will hit his natal Sun/Moon exact square around the day of inauguration. Natally, he has Uranus = Sun/Kronos = Mars/Hades , which points to something unexpected and exciting, yet sinister ((look up Mars/Hades)). Around inauguration day Solar Arc Uranus will hit his natal Admetos (on the 45 deg dial). This will create the picture Admetos = Sun/Kronos, meaning "End of government or independence. Abdication of a ruler" . It will also align with transit Saturn and Sun.
Well, I'm not saying Gavin Newsom will be sworn as the next US president. I'm not a prophet, heaven forbid. I just wanted to demonstrate the correct, economical and beneficial way of using of the power of this astrological method.

AquaStelLea wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:31 pm I don't understand why you waste so much time and effort crunching Trump's chart. Are you so obsessed with him becasue you're scared he will be reelected?
How about trying to be more practical by using Uranian astrology the right way?
Threre's that famous planetary picture Mercury+Kronos-Jupiter meaning 'Taking the oath'.
Now, as a real Uranian Astrologer, all you have to do is find a candidate who has this solar arc directed combination hitting a personal natal point ( like Sun or Moon) around the day of the expected inauguration for the next president of the USA (Jan 20th 2025?).

Gavin Newsom, for example (who has the natal chart of a real cruel tyrant and dictator with Pluto and Mars sitting smack on his natal angles) will have transit Jupiter right on his natal Midheaven (and PoF) on the day of the elections (Nov 5th 2024?).
The 'solar arc directed 'take the oath' planetary picture mentioned above will hit his natal Sun/Moon exact square around the day of inauguration. Natally, he has Uranus = Sun/Kronos = Mars/Hades , which points to something unexpected and exciting, yet sinister ((look up Mars/Hades)). Around inauguration day Solar Arc Uranus will hit his natal Saturn (on the 45 deg dial). This will create the picture Saturn = Sun/Kronos, meaning "death of a superior" .
Well, I'm not saying Gavin Newsom will be sworn as the next US president. I'm not a prophet, heaven forbid. I just wanted to demonstrate the correct, economical and beneficial way of using of the power of this astrological method.

AquaStel - While the tone you use here is a bit unnecessarily acerbic (imo - but to each their own), I appreciate the demo. I've been trying to wrap my head around how the Uranian tools operate, and you employed them very clearly and succinctly here. Thanks for that (and for an intriguing post).

Jason wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:39 pm AquaStel - While the tone you use here is a bit unnecessarily acerbic (imo - but to each their own), I appreciate the demo. I've been trying to wrap my head around how the Uranian tools operate, and you employed them very clearly and succinctly here. Thanks for that (and for an intriguing post).

You are welcome. If you're interested in learning the system, I've heard there is a new online course, though I cannot testify as to its quality, as I don't know the teacher and never took any of his courses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqictdWPhFU

I don't understand why you waste so much time and effort crunching Trump's chart. Are you so obsessed with him because you're scared he will be reelected?

I am interested by astrology. Period.
And in my post here, to avoid crunching Trump's chart (I thought about this and decided to take a neutral approach so to speak) I quoted the Rulebook word to word. Thanks to the Rulebook for crunching Trump if that's your impression!

Now, you mention the picture Mercury+Kronos+Jupiter. That's interesting for taking the oath. But it does not mean you will be President. If you have like Henry Kisssinger, JU=MC/KR you have power bestowed by the state. Which is what Jupiter brings. Kissinger also took the oath.
To become President is more the midpoint SU/KR (President, King) and we need to stress the Sun here.
I did a post on SU/KR and the last 4 US Presidents
https://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12086
I also did comment on a post of Wei on ROC/Taiwan Presidential Election 2024 based on the SU/KR midpoint
https://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopi ... 7&start=24

We can disagree but still remain opened to what Uranian astrology is telling us.
And thanks to your reference in response to Jason comment.

Best to you,
Ouranos

To become President is more the midpoint SU/KR (President, King) and we need to stress the Sun here.

It's not only Sun/Kronos.

Sun/Kronos has many other interpretations. It can be prominent for many different kinds of so called "superiority" or "independence", so it is not enough for making one a president. It can make one a boss, a father, a master or anyone who represents the power of the state.

Donald Trump has a natal Sun/Kronos aspecting the Aries Point and an exact MC=Sun+Kronos-Mars. . He's always been the independent boss, even when not a president. On inauguration he will have SA Hades = natal Sun/Kronos. Transit Kronos will hit his natal Sun on the 45 degree dial as well as his solar arc
Mc/Kronos and Aries/Sun, while his SA Mc will hit his natal Neptune/Kronos.

Gavin Newsom will have his natal Apollon exactly equal the transit Sun/Kronos midpoint on inauguration, which will make him "An authority for many", while the transit Sun and Saturn will align with his natal Uranus=Sun/Kronos earlier that same day. I'm sure many other people will have similar alignments that day, but Will that make them the president without an indication of "the oath"?

I doubt it.

Sun/Kronos has many other interpretations. It can be prominent for many different kinds of so called "superiority" or "independence",

Let's come back to being a President.

Donald Trump has a natal Sun/Kronos aspecting the Aries Point

Really! You are stretching it to the 16th Harmonic to prove your point?
You will have to be more specific when he became President.
FYI - He has the sum of SU + KR = AS to simplify.

and an exact MC=Sun+Kronos-Mars

Can you explain me your calculations and in which Harmonic?

On inauguration he will have SA Hades = natal Sun/Kronos

Natal Sun/Kronos = 6 Gem 55
Solar Arc Hades = 11 Can
?????

Transit Kronos will hit his natal Sun on the 45 degree dial as well as his solar arc

Transit Kronos at 16 Can - Details please.

Again, you seem to dismiss SU/KR but you give me plenty of examples with the SU/KR combinations. Which side are you on?