• Hard aspects from the planets managing the times, especially those involving P10 and N10, appear to win out over soft aspects with the possible exception of a partile trine involving a planet in or ruling the 10th in either time
• A burnt Mercury as one of the planets managing the times appears to ensure a loss
• The South Node in N10 appears to weaken chances (see Wilkie, McGovern); in P10 it gives mixed indications: Reagan, Obama, and Biden all had it in P10 and won while George H.W. Bush had it in P10 with the ruler of P1 and lost and Dole had it in P10 with Uranus and lost but he also had a burnt Mercury ruling P1 trine P10

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Jason wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:40 am Thanks for sharing your findings, Jane. Interesting. As I'm sure you're aware, a few well-respected mundane astrologers have come to a similar conclusion: it looks like Trump is in a better position to win.

I've been eyeing August as an important month for the country in this election year. I haven't taken the time to nail down my thoughts on it; I'm not even sure I want to (lol), but it's early still.

Ouranos wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:09 am It always felt strange to me that U.S Presidents were sworn into office when the Sun enters Aquarius (Detriment).
At the same time, it seems to describe well the constant fighting the Presidents are having with the opposition. You have an elected President chosen by the people who comes up with a legislation that has to go through the House of Representatives and the Senate. And if any of these 2 chambers is controlled by the opposition, they can block the legislation. Which renders the whole election fruitless. This system does not make sense.

Ouranos wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:00 pm Jane,

Without looking too closely at the Profections of the 2 potential candidates, I would have a different approach. The AS moving by Right Ascension in the local sphere and converted on the Ecliptic like you would do for Primary Directions.

In Donald Trump's chart, the AS reached the 2nd House at 23 Virgo at the age of 1 year old (2 hours of RA), at 2 years old, the AS reached the 3rd House at 21 Libra and so on. In June 2024, his Profected AS will be at 29 Aquarius 57 on his birthday. By Profection, he has been under the rulership of Saturn (Aquarius and Capricorn) for the past 2 years now.

Currently, transiting Mars is over his Profected ASC in Aquarius (Saturn ruled) and bound of Mars.
He needs to arrange a $454 million bond to comply with a New York court ruling. He approached 30 companies but that getting a bond was a practical impossibility, because he would need a billion dollars in cash, which he says he doesn't have. Let's call it a 'fire sale' with Mars. In New York, if you want to appeal and stop the enforcement of the judgment, you have to put up the full amount. Sell or declare bankruptcy is what he is facing right now.
Shortly after his birthday, he will move into Pisces (Jupiter/Neptune) in a bound of Venus (0 to 8 Pisces). With Saturn transiting in Pisces right now. Venus ruling his 10th House conjunct natal Saturn.

Looking back at similar Profected years prior to 2024

66 years - 2012 Speculated to run against Obama at the Conservative Political Action Conference.
54 years - 2000 He ran in the California and primaries under the banner of the Reform Party.
42 years - 1988 Acquired the Plaza Hotel with a loan from a consortium of 16 banks. And he bought the Trump Taj Mahal in junk bonds. Also created his Trump Foundation.


And the transiting Jupiter/Uranus conjunction will reach his natal 10th/profected 4th. It sounds like he will spend a lot of time re-organizing his real estate foundations than managing a country. The 4th House being the end and beginning of something new. His media company, Trump Media and Technology Group (TMTG), will merge with a publicly traded vehicle, after a favorable vote at a general meeting today, a development which should unlock a windfall of several billion dollars for the former American president. Is it the influence of the Jupiter/Uranus conjunction in the shadow?
Another way to look at it, you are creating a nest, gathering your eggs from your social activity.

Just a quick approach here, very speculative and out-of-bound (!!!)

Be well,
Ouranos