Jakob wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 8:29 pm What is astrological feminism? What should a horoscope that symbolizes this energy look like?

I would say ad hoc that the metoo horoscope fits the topic of feminism best, with Mars and Venus in ideology house 9 and the MC axis in Mars-Venus signs. What specific questions do you want answered here? Spica?

Ouranos wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 1:05 pm You sound like a modern astronomer who has never studied astrology.

Thank you for the compliment. I can assure you I have dabbled in astrology quite a bit in my life. Many years ago I myself took an interest in Uranian astrology and also tried using the outer planets Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.

However, life is too short to try and implement every known astronomical object into our astrological practice - let alone invent hypothetical ones. As if the thousands of fixed stars visible to the naked eye weren't good enough! It is better to concentrate on the few objects in the sky that really catch our eye and study them in depth than to keep searching for ever newer, ever fainter objects.

Thank you for the compliment. I can assure you I have dabbled in astrology quite a bit in my life.
Many years ago I myself took an interest in Uranian astrology and also tried using the outer planets Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.

If you haven't found any evidence in the outer planets and Transneptunians, obviously there is not much interest for you here in this thread.
Contrary to what you think that I want to make a point here, I am just drawing the planets (including the TNPs) on key moments in the evolution of woman's rights. Whether you find this relevant is up to you. Planets are there even if your mind cannot understand.

However, life is too short to try and implement every known astronomical object into our astrological practice - let alone invent hypothetical ones. As if the thousands of fixed stars visible to the naked eye weren't good enough! It is better to concentrate on the few objects in the sky that really catch our eye and study them in depth than to keep searching for ever newer, ever fainter objects.

If you rely only on what catches your eye then you should get rid of the Houses. Have you ever tried to visually see the ASC in the sky? And I mean physically as an object as you describe it.
Good luck!
Witte and Sieggrund calculated TNPs from methodical observations and the best explanation I have found is that they represent 'fields of energy'. And Einstein taught us that energy and mass are equivalent.
When we talk about matter it starts with the atoms and you can build a physical object like a human body. And we know from science that atoms are mostly empty spaces. But not entirely because it is filled with an electromagnetic field and scientists say that about 98% of the mass of any physical object (including the Planets) are made up of moving and binding energies.
And to quote Einstein 'A man doesn't need brilliance or genius, all he needs is energy'.
I haven't fully grasped the meaning of all the TNPs but I keep searching with my eyes opened.
Recently, I was looking at the chart of a woman who had Cupido transiting over her natal Jupiter in the 8th House.
Cupido is marriage, associations, communities, extended family.
Now, she went to live in a community house with her new boyfriend who had 2 daughters. And they share all their expenses. I couldn't have found a better symbol on how her life is unfolding, Had I dismissed Cupido, I would have missed something important happening in her life at that time.

Love must be beautiful.

Jacob,

Much to my surprise, a telephone proposed to his girlfriend when he gave her a ring!

The famous German poet Heinz Erhardt wrote a poem about the love between two daisies. Unfortunately it only rhymes in German.

Ouranos wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 3:25 pm If you haven't found any evidence in the outer planets and Transneptunians, obviously there is not much interest for you here in this thread.
Contrary to what you think that I want to make a point here, I am just drawing the planets (including the TNPs) on key moments in the evolution of woman's rights. Whether you find this relevant is up to you. Planets are there even if your mind cannot understand.

You are right, I mainly clicked on the thread because I'm interested in the astrology of fixed stars. Seeing an error in the very first sentence ("Spica is one of the 4 royal stars") and copy-pasted quotes about mythological virginity, I felt the need of chiming in in order to tell you that purity/virginity obviously doesn't fit with pro-abortion feminism or women's rights - rather the contrary. Your astrological examples are far-fetched because they involve hypothetical Transneptunians so I had to debunk these too.

If you rely only on what catches your eye then you should get rid of the Houses. Have you ever tried to visually see the ASC in the sky? And I mean physically as an object as you describe it.

Have you ever watched a sunrise? If so, you can guess where the ASC degree must be by looking at the rising Sun.

However, the Ascendant or Rising degree is not an astronomical object like the Sun, it is the intersection of two great circles on the celestial sphere: ecliptic and eastern horizon. The Sun is obviously the most important object in our astrological universe, while the Solar Path is the most important great circle, seeing that it is the astronomical basis of our astrological zodiac (12 signs) and our house system (12 houses).

Witte and Sieggrund calculated TNPs from methodical observations and the best explanation I have found is that they represent 'fields of energy'. And Einstein taught us that energy and mass are equivalent.

They also published "ephemerides" for the Transneptunians, treating them as if they were hitherto unconfirmed astronomical bodies. They haven't been able to verify their supposed existence in real life universe. You can do as you like - you're not the only one using TNPs in this forum - just know that you're leaving our traditional astronomy roots behind. I'm willing to say this isn't astro-logy in a strict sense anymore.

However, the Ascendant or Rising degree is not an astronomical object like the Sun, it is the intersection of two great circles on the celestial sphere: ecliptic and eastern horizon.
you can guess where the ASC degree must be by looking at the rising Sun.

Ah! You are guessing here! Sounds like mathematical calculations... close to calculating the TNPs.

They haven't been able to verify their supposed existence in real life universe. You can do as you like - you're not the only one using TNPs in this forum - just know that you're leaving our traditional astronomy roots behind. I'm willing to say this isn't astro-logy in a strict sense anymore.

OK so Spica is some kind of modern fallacy? I don't understand what traditional astronomy means. Maybe the Earth as the center of the universe ? I don't participate in the definition of astrology you have. Sorry Astrophilus. Start by studying seriously Uranian astrology, then we can have a more decent conversation. I am not impressed by your level of understanding and your arguments.

I like the metoo horoscope.
Ascendant/Descendant = 0 degrees Capricorn/Cancer: The reassessment of something, the new beginning.
IC/MC 22 degrees Aries/Libra: From full throttle, exaggeration into a religious war. Jupiter/Mars