The Return of Umar aṭ-Ṭabarī (Video star)

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So to start at the beginning I was passing time flicking my way through youtube when I chanced upon a portrait of King Charles with the words 'prediction' attached so I clicked on and found an astrologer going round a Solar return chart with 12 houses marked by the annual months with planets therein with ruler affecting the fortune over the coming 4 weeks. Enjoying the fluidity of time and the exciting merry go round momentum of the whole thing I somewhat hastily attempted to copy the method myself(with mixed success) although more recently I seem to be getting the hang of it. Anyway the point is that I'd never seen this method used before and was instantly curious, this continued until informed by the esteemed Martin Gansten of this Parish that it was in fact a relatively obscure ancient timing technique used by one Umar aṭ-Ṭabarī a name now on the tips of every hip astrologer's tongue!

To cut to the chase I was listening to a 'Royal Expert' on precisely when this ever growing problem with the permanently upset Prince Harry first began and he asserted it 'completely changed' at the time of an angry 'Royal statement attacking the Press and its treatment of Meghan' published in the media on behalf of both brothers (to William's apparently unknowing bewilderment). This occurred on Nov 9th 2016 so I erected the Solar return for 2016 and started counting off the degrees, 360 for 36 er..5 days roughly and lo and behold the precise day Nov 9th was on the apex of an appropriately angry red Sun-Mars t-square with Chiron (what else?).
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HARRY:15 September 1984 - 16:20 (BST, DST)Universal Time (UT/GMT):15 September 1984 - 15:20 House system:Placidus systemLatitude, Longitude:51°31'N, 0°11'WCity (Country):United Kingdom Paddington (GB)

And Harry's 8th harmonic with Sun-Mars-Chiron on the IC directly opposing Pluto on the MC.

the BEGINNING of a HUGE POWER STRUGGLE STILL REVERBERATING TODAY. :evil: v :twisted:
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Greg Young wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 11:15 am So to start at the beginning I was passing time flicking my way through youtube when I chanced upon a portrait of King Charles with the words 'prediction' attached so I clicked on and found an astrologer going round a Solar return chart with 12 houses marked by the annual months with planets therein with ruler affecting the fortune over the coming 4 weeks. Enjoying the fluidity of time and the exciting merry go round momentum of the whole thing I somewhat hastily attempted to copy the method myself(with mixed success) although more recently I seem to be getting the hang of it. Anyway the point is that I'd never seen this method used before and was instantly curious, this continued until informed by the esteemed Martin Gansten of this Parish that it was in fact a relatively obscure ancient timing technique used by one Umar aṭ-Ṭabarī a name now on the tips of every hip astrologer's tongue!

To cut to the chase I was listening to a 'Royal Expert' on precisely when this ever growing problem with the permanently upset Prince Harry first began and he asserted it 'completely changed' at the time of an angry 'Royal statement attacking the Press and its treatment of Meghan' published in the media on behalf of both brothers (to William's apparently unknowing bewilderment). This occurred on Nov 9th 2016 so I erected the Solar return for 2016 and started counting off the degrees, 360 for 36 er..5 days roughly and lo and behold the precise day Nov 9th was on the apex of an appropriately angry red Sun-Mars t-square with Chiron (what else?).
Interesting. Could you please share the link?
All I could find are videos stating Nostradamus had predicted Charles would step down and Harry to become king.

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Is the Astrology Video you were referring to King Charles' 👑🇬🇧 2024 Prediction?

Does the method you apply involve advancing the solar return's chart ascendant by 360/365 degrees a day and checking which planet in the chart it hits and when, or do you also have to take into consideration the house cusps and advance one house per month, and then move the ascendant inside this house at a constant rate from cusp to cusp? :-?

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A mix of the two mainly because I'm not familiar with what works and the only way of finding out how well it works is by trial and error. Val Evans has obviously been sing the method for a while now and the looser format probably suits a video interpretation because it's slick and entertaining and more accessible still I think personally the 1 degree/1 day approach suits me more by using the ascendents daily motion around the yearly cycle. She uses the Placidus houses and suggests that larger houses are more important/active but I might use Equal houses for convenience. Not sure yet.

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Well it certainly works, hence this stunning chart for the day Princess Diana entered the tunnel in Paris that was to take away her last breath after some drama. Needless to say the culprit(s) resided in the 3rd house under the guise of Pluto.

On the day (or rather night) the Moon (in 9th) opposed Pluto (3rd) squared by Diana's natal Mars-Node which leaves plenty of scope for conspiratorialists to point to the Pluto (power/men in grey suits) in Sagittarius (Royal) major role in events or maybe it just suggests 'Plutocrats' (Al Fayed family). Take your pick. 8)

As for interpretation COSI suggests for Moon-Mars-Pluto = ''the death of a woman; accidents'' - it doesn't get more concisely accurate than that!


Of course on less dramatic days than that sad event in history the SR degree may well be less inclined to give such a clear unequivocal answer but it seems more accurate than using FM and NM charts as a guide as most astrologers tend to do. I'm not saying they're entirely useless but having hundreds of astrologers scrambling over every lunation seems a tad unimaginative and borders on tedious. Still my last prediction was provoked by a Quarter Moon so best not to ignore them but to bear in mind that many lunations are not particularly exciting anyway!
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Greg,

There is definitely a great value in the lunation cycle (including the QM).
I suggest you look also at the rulers of the SU and MO.
Say for example the SU in Gemini is making a square to the MO in Pisces (last Q Moon).
Look up at Mercury and Jupiter. In the last QM, Mercury was conjunct Uranus at 24 Tau. This point also becomes very important to consider.
Their rulers speak as well.

Ouranos
Blessings!

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On the same subject of Princess Diana, a look at the effect of Sabians on Cusp Degrees.

I was looking at Princess Diana's crash in the Paris tunnel in lieu of the recent ludicrous imbroglio with the vacuous Meg & Harry and of course a few interesting comparisons resulted one of which I will mention shortly. Now the run of degrees ends at 7 degree of Capricorn on the eighth cusp with the actual crash (NOT the death of Diana which occurs later in hospital). The driver and Dodi Fayed both died as we must remember and of course the cusp was in Capricorn to add a sombre tone to the 8th house.

8th Cusp - FAMOUS DEATHS

Early capricorn is about short journeys so Pr. Diana's crash in the tunnel fits well with the degree symbology here.

Prior to the crash at 6 Cap is a frustrating degree hindering our path and suggesting we concentrate our attention to then avoid obstacles. (Dark archway with ten logs at the bottom Ten logs lie under an archway leading to darker woods).

The crash occurs at 7 Cap - a prophetic degree at best its more usually to do with anticipating events and then using caution rather than allowing the frustration of the previous degree to result in an injudicious display of power. (A Veiled Prophet).

Wisdom unfolds with the acceptance of natural boundaries & limits ( Cap 8 A Caged Bird with the door left open).


Interestingly Meghan & Harry's N.Y keystone kops episode in slow motion echoes the 1-6 capricorn period but this time on the Ascendant (Appearance?) rather than 8th house authenticity.


Both the 6th and 7th degree sabians have an air of mystery about them, so could be seen to foster conspiracy theories about Diana's death being planned by 'dark forces' in some way. Although it sounds plausible under the circumstances there isn't any clear astrological evidence to imply this.

7th 'A Veiled Prophet' is a mysterious symbol whilst the 6th degree itself - ''AN ARCHWAY LEADING TO DARKER WOODS'' is eerily reminiscent of an actual tunnel in the literal sense. Some interpreters such as Bovee have suggested that the 'Archway'' entrance may lead to another world entirely or at least hung in a state between two worlds. Life and Death?

Charubel symbolises the degree as 'A Maze' so again a description of something mysterious & potentially puzzling needing thought and concentration to clarify, whilst Henson ascribes both degrees as being prone to ''accidents'' which would be accurate in this case.

Exact on the ASC sits ''Hades'' the planet of the underworld In Greek mythology it rules the underworld of the dead. Lord of Discord, Eris, conjuncts Saturn (controversy about what caused the death) whilst the ruler of the 3rd (Chaffeur/Driver/short journeys) is on the Nadir.

On a lighter note the sabian for the apex of the chart for Jupiter-Mc is 15 Aq ''Two Lovebirds''. Sigh.