Thanks for posting the charts AquaStelLea,

In the first SR Chart, the SR MC is right in the midpoint SA/NE of slowly developing illness or neuroses and both culminating.
In the Precessed Chart, his SU L1 falls in the midpoint SA/NE.
And SA goes R from June 30th to Nov 15th.
No matter what angle you look at it, a slowly and creeping physical condition is developing for him.

Ouranos

So the Inauguration will be sidereal also presumably and oddly enough I have noticed quite a few vedic astrologers going for Trump, I think one was called 'Vedic Living' but sticking to tropical for now the ruler of the 10th, Venus, is squaring Saturn by progression and progressed Moon is square Pluto in November, To top it all progressed Mars is exactly conjunct Chiron though I'm not sure if that will have a huge effect.

Is it turning into a Sidereal v Tropical divide?

Greg Young wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 2:14 pm So the Inauguration will be sidereal also presumably and oddly enough I have noticed quite a few vedic astrologers going for Trump, I think one was called 'Vedic Living' but sticking to tropical for now the ruler of the 10th, Venus, is squaring Saturn by progression and progressed Moon is square Pluto in November, To top it all progressed Mars is exactly conjunct Chiron though I'm not sure if that will have a huge effect.

Is it turning into a Sidereal v Tropical divide?

I don't think it is Sidereal Vs. Tropical. If I recall well, in Mark's list of predictions (the top thread in this forum), there are both kinds on both sides.

Here's an article by a Vedic Astrologer who has a different prediction, and does not belong in either side.

Gavin Newsom: Just another pretty face, or America’s next President?

Joni Patri, a vedic astrologer on YouTube, is now speaking about Trump Vs. Newsom, too.

Gavin Newsom: Is He Running for President?
Donald Trump: Winning the 2024 Election?

edited post from last november..

james_m wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:06 am i first stated wondering about gavin newsom and whether he might get in a position to run for the 2024 election about 2 weeks ago, but this hinges on joe biden stepping down as the democrat incumbent which is a very big if... i am handicapped by joe bidens chart, as i don't believe the time is accurate.. adb says joe bidens chart is 'from memory' and gives it an A rating.. i am more confident on using jill bidens chart to foresee any possible change up in the democrat leadership of joe biden..
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Biden,_Joe
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Biden,_Jill
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Newsom,_Gavin

ps - the title of this thread is hilarious!

Is it from Joe Bidens memory or somebody else's?

Another astrological opinion, this time using solar returns and converse techniques.

The Astrology of Donald Trump in the 2024 Elections: Using Converse Techniques

Yes, I only flicked through the Converse charts previously for confirmation and noted that they aren't doing Trump any favours at all. Much worse than the regular SR's provided that they're as equally valid (??). Not sure why Converse charts fell out of favour as they possess a long history before Ronald Davison

Here's another take -

One of the most comforting astrological signs for President Trump's election victory in 2024 can be seen through the United States solar return chart which features "great benefic" Jupiter in his sign of Gemini in the 9th house, the house that governs national elections.

https://www.starseedastrology.com/singl ... turn-chart

We must be looking at different Solar returns or through different glasses at least.

Here's another take -

One of the most comforting astrological signs for President Trump's election victory in 2024 can be seen through the United States solar return chart which features "great benefic" Jupiter in his sign of Gemini in the 9th house, the house that governs national elections.

https://www.starseedastrology.com/singl ... turn-chart

We must be looking at different Solar returns or through different glasses at least.

This article didn't specify which US chart was used for casting the Solar return. There are several different charts, that different astrologers swear by. Anyway, it does not look like the return chart of the US Sibly chart, that is attached below.
The 2024 Solar return of the US Sibly chart has 27 Leo on the MC (conjunct Trump's natal Mars and Asc) opposite US natal Moon at 27 Aquarius. SR Sun in the 8th house. SR Moon (lord of the 9th house of the law and courts) exactly square SR Neptune (dubious justice) . SR Mars on the Desc...etc.

Check out the Sibly chart's lunar return on August the 19th 2024, on the Solar return's IC . It is a full Moon tightly square Uranus. (Full Moon takes place the same day and hour). LR Sun is conjunct Mercury Rx. on the SR chart MC. Note the very tight Angular Venus-Jupiter-Saturn T-square aligning exactly with Trump's natal Uranus. Jupiter is also conjunct Mars.