''the time was given to me by Hamilton City, OH vital statistics--over the phone. See link below. Ohio is an open state and so birth certificates can be gotten by non-family members. I obtained Vivek Ramaswany's certificate, who was born in Cincinnati, in a similar way. Check his chart on Astrodatabank. When I ordered Ramaswamy's bc, I did so through Vitalchek, but the cert did not have a time of birth on it--something that is mentioned in the Astrodatabank link to that explains the rules for different States. I placed a call to Ohio vital statistics and told them I needed the time, which they gave me over the phone, since they already had a record of the purchase of the cert.
So prior to ordering J.D's cert, I decided to call ahead and see if there was even a recorded time on the cert, something that Ohio State officials had previously told me doesn't always happen. I was only placing the call to see if the time was on the cert and didn't expect to get the time read to me over the phone, but the clerk there was very friendly and just gave it to me. ( I had transiting Moon on my natal Venus )
I haven't ordered the cert yet, as this order supposedly can't be placed on the phone and has to be done on line and can't be done through Vitalchek, as a cert with the time on it has to be requested and Vitalchek doesn't allow for that. I intend to do that soon and so this can't be turned over to Astrodatabank until I have the certificate in hand. Allow a couple week for this, but by that time someone else will probably have posted this on ADB.
The story gets more complicated, as I had to spend about two hours researching this on Ancestry before I attempted to order. There is no James Donald Bowman (his original birth name from his father, Donald Ray Bowman) in the Ohio Birth Registry--so no cert with his name on it. I found out after a lot of work, that this is because he was adopted by his stepfather , his mother's third husband, Robert Eugene Hamel.
The birth cert is there with his mother's name on it and Robert Hamel, and the legal name he used to use, James David Hamel. When an adoption takes place there is supposed to be a new cert generated with the new adoptive parents and the old original bc is sealed under court order. This is what happened with Steve Jobs when he was adopted--I had researched this years ago.
The time and other details of birth are supposed to be transferred to the new cert, but in reality I didn't think we had a chance of getting this time, but it is on the cert as read to me over the phone.''