actually i was looking at the astro to this event earlier tonight... my condolences to those who have suffered or died in this tragedy..

the time is said to be 704pm local which gives 5 leo 58 ascendant tropical zodiac..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Magdeburg_car_attack

here is the chart for 704pm magdeburg, germany below in tropical zodiac..
mars opp pluto is essentially on the ascendant axis.. sun, ruler of the leo ascendant is 135 to the rising mars... saturn is 142 degrees to the ascendant - slightly short of a biquintile aspect, from the 8th whole sign/house.. sun-saturn midpoint is at the ascendant axis basically.. mercury-rahu midpoint is also at the ascendant axis.... the event and motives of this person sounds very premeditated...

James your 7:04 was rhe time of the phone call to services. It takes a few minutes for humans to normalise and think what to do next. The 6:55pm time is I think far more accurate.

I looked at the Oct ingress for Madeburg and it looked really interesting.

I also noted that the ingress from was just hours away and did that. Even more interesting! Look at that Thors pointing to a past event and the incapacitated intercepted moon… the now mutual reception. This is a major event!

let me try the oct ingress and event charts repost because its not downloading to the site.l..mars retro moment

Asc of event right on the 8th house. Mars of ingress in 7th of public enemies trigerred by mc of event.

Fidibus wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:08 am The ascendant of the event is at 4.4 degrees Leo, as is the ascendant of German reunification. What does that mean?

That is the question.

Here is the tropical Capricorn ingress set for Berlin. The axis of the Political Unification chart is highlighted again. The recent Mars station at 6 Leo is brought into play as well. The partile Moon-Saturn opposition lies on the Porphyry 2-8th house axis. This portends great sorrow for the German people. I echo James' expression of condolence to all those impacted by this tragedy. Violence of any type is never the answer Mr Musk.

Mars R conjunct TNO Vulcanus opp Pluto

At the Aries Point (World event)
VE = A celebration
SU=MA/UR
Sudden and surprising event, wounds, bloody injury. General midpoint for accidents. A ram truck.

Magdeburg at 11 E 38 = Geodetic MC at 11 Aries 38
Autumn Ingress, Mars in Cancer squaring that degree... and 90 days later.
Transiting MC at 13 Aries.

Please open a separate topic for a general discussion on the horoscope of yesterday's violent act.

The ascendant of the event is at 4.4 degrees Leo, as is the ascendant of German reunification. What does that mean?

In my view it means that this terrible event has dramatic implications for the German state and its democracy.

It's difficult to be more precise than that. Depending on the time used, you can see that the ascendant may be slightly different. Nevertheless the Capricorn ingress chart set for Berlin echoes the 4 degrees (being the degree of the descendant of the ingress, and also retrograde Mars). This only reinforces the importance of the event in my view. It's a moment of national reckoning described astrologically.

calli and ed - thanks for both libra and capricorn ingress charts and your posts..

calli - it says on the link i shared in my first post - "At 19:04 CET on 20 December 2024, a driver drove a black BMW rental car,[5] reportedly rented shortly before the attack,[7] into a crowd at high speed at a Christmas market in Magdeburg." it wouldn't be the first time wikipedia got something wrong, but there is a link to a german publication which apparently vouches for this time..

Fidibus wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 12:35 pm

Fidibus wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:08 am The ascendant of the event is at 4.4 degrees Leo, as is the ascendant of German reunification. What does that mean?

That is the question.

fidibus.. i have noticed you like asking questions - typically bizarre questions - but are generally never willing to offer some insights yourself.... is this a regular feature of your personality, whereby you also feel the need to lecture others on the need to ''stick to the question''? why not take a leadership role and offer some astrological ideas yourself.. i would be happy to shoot them down, lol.. my answer to your question, with the caveat that i am not certain of the actual degree of the ascendant in this horrible event - just a coincidence.. that is it...

various ways of looking at the astrology can provide all sorts of insights - past tense - but no one that i know is predicting anything of this nature specifically in advance.... on the other hand the topic of germany and what is the fate of germany is something i am quite interested in understanding from an astrological point of view.. the reunion chart might have some significance, but i tend to like using older charts for germany, like the 1871 i have a whole thread on...

hi fidibus

thanks for sharing your thoughts... you are directing the ascendant of this event to 0 cancer? if that is correct, how are you doing that astrologically?

i went for coffee after i posted this and read more of a book i am reading at present - blackshirts & reds by michael parenti.. it is a bit dated, but it got me to thinking more about the reunion or reunification chart from 1990.... now, i don't claim to know much about germany, but it seems to me this merger of east and western germany created some great opportunities for west german capitalists to profit off the transition given their more powerful financial position to eastern germany.. now, there would also be ideological differences that had to merge too... what i find interesting is how the afD party was so successful in this recent 2024 election with all the success in eastern germany... for anyone not following this - check out this map
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternati ... esults.svg

which is inside the central wikipedia page on the afd party -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany

this tells me the reunification that has happened has been processed very differently by those in eastern germany to those in western germany and it is being reflected in the voting that has come out of this 2024 election.. i suspect the world views of people in eastern germany are significantly different to those in western germany because of their previous backgrounds politically..

the astrology to me is speculative, but here is one idea... the reunion chart would represent both east and west, but perhaps the west would be more represented by the ascendant with the east being more represented by the descendant... thus the long extended pluto transit to the descendant in this chart would indicate an attempt at one of the parties wanting to dominate or lord it over the other... i suppose it will appear as a manipulative power struggle of sorts which is interesting in light of the afd's success in eastern germany and the desire on the part of the west to totally destroy the afd.. they have certainly described it in the worst way possible, in spite of the fact afd's success in the east is clear to see... will they censor or stop the afd from being a party in this election? certainly the actions of the 2 step election process in romania, if that is any indication, would suggest this possibility...

i suspect the transit of saturn to the position of the moon in the 8th whole sign house of this chart is also problematic and this largely happens in february the time of the upcoming election.. the moon rules the 12th house of this chart too.. the transit of saturn will be on the moon of this chart mid february which is close to the timing of the election..

this election will also coincide with the transit of mars to the 12th house/sign of this reunion chart.. it would be good to examine the chart for the mars station that happens later in february 2025 to see how that lines up with this reunion chart astro data..

i think germany needs a serious reorientation to happen... having the largest industrial terrorist act on europe happen - nordstream - and seeing some of the fallout, in collaboration with this ongoing nato-russia proxy war in ukraine is indeed having a huge and negative impact on germany...germany has shown amazing fealty to nato and usa leadership in all of it.. it would be good if the german people could come to terms what all this means for them and their future and find some sort of political vantage point that furthers their own needs and interests as opposed to those being imposed on them from without by outside forces...

that is my 2 cents... does it have something specific to do with this terrorist act??? it is horrible to think about it, but then there is a lot of horror going on, with the planet at present and no easy answers for any of it..