If I understand you correctly, your method works with transits in an Electional chart. Is that correct?

Try this:
Find the 2nd/8th House cusp axis in your chart (Topocentric or Placidus). Best if you have a planet there.
Choose a time when Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Uranus or Pluto will make a conjunction or a soft aspect to it.
If you can combine 2 of the above at the same time in a tight orb (30 minutes or less) that's even better and put the planets or one on the transiting 2/8 axis or Angular.

Hi everyone,

I am a newbie on this forum, but I've been lurking for a long time. Recently, I've started to read more and more about astrology and, especially, about winning times and gambling with a little help of the sky above.

Find the 2nd/8th House cusp axis in your chart (Topocentric or Placidus). Best if you have a planet there.
Choose a time when Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Uranus or Pluto will make a conjunction or a soft aspect to it.

Dear Ouranos, may I ask you to clarify the quote above - when you say "...will make a conjunction or a soft aspect to it", do you mean to the cusp or to the planet there?

Dear Ouranos, may I ask you to clarify the quote above - when you say "...will make a conjunction or a soft aspect to it", do you mean to the cusp or to the planet there?

Sandysand,

To the planet first.
Next, to the House cusp.
Best if you can have both at the same time in a tight orb (15 minutes).
And the conjunction seems to be better over all other aspects. Consider the opposition as a conjunction to the 8th house cusp, which is also very good.
Every chart is different but looking at the 2/8 axis, you can see if you have a natal or transiting planet making an aspect to this axis as an anchorage point.
Choosing a time during the day, you would look at when the transiting :
1) 2/8 axis is conjunct this position
2) 10/4 axis
3) 1/7 axis

Check also the Part of Fortune and the Part of Spirit.
Best if Jupiter is involved.
Best if the natal MC is also involved by aspect or rulership as winning a larger prize is of the public domain.

If you are familiar with diurnals, the lunation cycle (NM, FM, QM) or progressions (Primary, Secondary, Solar Arc), this can add confirmation.

Now, the question that kills.
Do you have any proofs or examples?
Read my post - Winning with diurnals and midpoints.
And please don't take this as God's law. I have made a lot of mistakes and observations and other astrologers are far better than me on this subject.
The only thing I can humbly claim is that this is the system that works for me. It is not perfect and it would be far better if I had a software to do the research for me instead of assembling all the pieces of the puzzle together.
It is all in my head.
This investigation also led me to understand when a transit is likely to manifest during the day by playing with the ASC, the MC and the midpoint A/M.

Best to you,
Ouranos

Dear Ouranos,

Thank you for your lengthy explanation!

I've tried diurnals on my own chart, but there aren't that many opportunities at the moment. I am currently working with five charts (people who are willing to participate in the testing + me). However, I have to admit that 3/5 of these charts don't have exact birth time as they are probably couple of minutes off and that might pose a problem with choosing the right time to play.

I completely understand you when it comes to not having a software! I am also doing all calculations by myself and I can barely keep up with the scribbles in my notebook and my Excel sheets.

Anyway, I'll try both diurnals and election charts. Will report back results!

Thank you once again and have a nice day,
Sandy

To start up, if you are looking for rectification try the

Graphic Rectification by Bernadette Brady on Astrolabe Inc
https://www.alabe.com › PDF

It is a PDF document that will guide you to build a degree by degree positions of all the planets including the potential AS and MC plotted on a graph from 0 to 29.

She says...
"I know of a jockey who has plotted all his wins onto a graph, so now he can watch for planets reaching his key peak degrees and know when he is likely to have his winning patches."

Searching for my own chart, I went to the extremes by looking at 20 timed events in my life with about a dozen predictive systems and came out with a peak within the minute. I would not recommend this as a standard practice.
But I got a good start when a friend who was skilled with Primary Directions rectified my chart a long time ago. This one is the best as far as I have seen.

Good luck,
Ouranos

Dear Ouranos,

I wasn't aware of that site up until now - there are some interesting articles over there.

I believe that PDF will be of great help!
Thank you once again

Sincerely,
Sand

Sandysand,

The 2nd House cusp

For the 2nd House cusp I use the Topocentric House system. It is a method with a focus on the observer's specific location on Earth. It calculates the houses based on the observer's position and the local horizon.
In practice, I have found this one better when dealing with events or situations where a strong connection to the local environment is seen as influential.

It may seem weird to focus on this House as most astrologers are familiar with aspects to the AS and the MC.
But it does work.

A word on Whole Signs Houses.
If I was using Whole Signs to locate my 2nd House, my system would not work.
I am the best example as my 1st and 2nd House are in the same sign and a lot of money events happened in my "Whole Sign 1st."
Does it mean that Whole Sign system is not valid? No.
It is a different view or angle of your chart.
One of the first astrological influence in my life was also an astrologer and a numerologist, amazing in his practice and he was also talking about Whole Signs but... related to the Sun not the AS.
For the AS, he was thinking "In which Solar House is the AS?". Let's say you are Aries AS Cancer, he would say the AS is in the Solar 4th House.
Do you see the difference? Whole Sign in his approach was counted from the Sun not from the AS.

Transits to the 2nd House cusp

Starting from the slower planets (Pluto, Uranus, Jupiter) you can look up when during the year these planets will make a conjunction, trine or sextile to the 2nd House cusp. These will point to periods to watch for winning which can extend over several days.
Then you look up in an aspectarian if the faster planets will join by conjunction, sextile or trine (Mars, Venus, Mercury, Sun)
Finally, the all important Moon can mark the hour of a specific day.
Avoid Saturn and Neptune unless they are connected by soft aspects.

Diurnal charts (1 degree orb)

I use them as a backup to confirm the aspects.
Here is what Sophia Mason says in her book "The art of forecasting using diurnal charts", p.51
Natal chart potentials
* Having transiting Jupiter in the natal 2nd, 5th, 8th or 9th and conjunct the diurnal 2nd or 8th house cusp or trining the AS.
* Having transiting Jupiter favorably aspecting the rulers of the natal 2nd or 8th house and positioned in the diurnal 2nd or 8th house.
* Having transiting Jupiter conjunct natal Uranus, Pluto, Jupiter, Sun or Moon. Purchase tickets or play the races at the time the transiting Moon conjuncts either the 2nd or 8th house cusp of an event chart or, if possible, the diurnal 2nd or 8th house.

A single transit might not be enough. The best time is when you have at least 2 transiting planets forming an aspect and more is best.
An opposition will not hurt you if you find a resolution by a sextile or trine.
Did I mention Jupiter, Jupiter and Jupiter!
Every chart is different, you may find a natal planet in soft aspect to the 2nd. Pay special attention to this planet.
Check if the 2nd House cusp is trining the MC.

Midpoints

I have discussed the use of midpoints in my other post and it would be too long to explain here but this is the icing on the cake, where you can time a win almost to the minute. I came a long way understanding how it works and I still need to polish the emerald.
A good assessment of the natal chart midpoints is also important to understand how your natal planets are behaving.
And I like the explanation of Alexander Ruperti to describe the hard aspects family found in midpoints based on the number 2 when he says... "these aspects are not 'bad' but necessary for an event to happen". The darkness of the night makes us conscious of the light of the day.

Here is a description of the midpoint
SU/JU = AS (45Wheel) of Warren Buffet.
In astrology, the Sun/Jupiter midpoint represents an area of life where you experience growth, optimism, and expansion. When this midpoint aligns with your natal Ascendant, it can suggest that these qualities of the Sun and Jupiter are expressed through your outward persona, appearance, or first impressions. Confident, optimistic, and charismatic. People might see you as generous, lucky, or someone who brings positive energy into situations.

This alignment can also make you more open to new opportunities, and your approach to life could be one of seeking adventure, learning, or self-improvement. You may find that expanding your personal horizons or embracing a more optimistic, expansive approach to life brings you greater self-realization.

He is known for his lax leadership Jupiterian style. He empowers his employees by giving them the opportunity to make their own decisions. He knows how to surround himself with intelligent, competent and trustworthy people.

He is one of the most famous investors in the world. At the end of 2024, his fortune was estimated at $129 billion according to Forbes, making him the 10th richest person in the world.

Hope this will help you,
Ouranos

P.S. Did you see the planetary configuration VE in Pisces sextile Uranus in Taurus and trine Mars R in Cancer? And the Moon in Scorpio which made a Grand Trine. Slightly fading away. This was a powerhouse if it connected to your 2nd House. This is what to look for.

Dear Ouranos,

I was wondering why you are using topocentric system. From my experience, people usually use Placidus as it is a default system for many web sites or whole sign houses. Have you tried using Porphyry for the 2nd/8th cusp event charts? I've seen some astrologers use it because the cusps are sensitive to the transits. I tried it in diurnals but haven't had much luck.

When it comes to the houses and diurnals, do you only use Placidus for diurnals or you use topocentric there as well and go with what sticks? Or is it Placidus for diurnals and then topocentric for event charts? The difference isn't that much, about 5' in my case for the 2nd house cusp, but since we are working with minutes here as well, not just degrees, I believe the aforementioned question is a-okay.

P.S. Did you see the planetary configuration VE in Pisces sextile Uranus in Taurus and trine Mars R in Cancer? And the Moon in Scorpio which made a Grand Trine. Slightly fading away. This was a powerhouse if it connected to your 2nd House. This is what to look for.

I missed it! trVE was closing in on my ASC and that kite was between my 1st, 2nd, 5th and the 8th house. I did do a test run on the 25th. Unfortunately, trMO was squaring that trVE and sextiling my JU/UR midpoint. Nevertheless, I did a little test and played when trPOF was going over JU/UR midpoint in Libra and aspecting trMO. Our national lottery has trial slot games online - I won two jackpots in roughly 10 minutes - trPOF applying and then separating. Amount won was 300 euros and I started with 10 euros. This is how I test some of these transits without actually paying money because, in the end, I am still a little bit cheap

A single transit might not be enough. The best time is when you have at least 2 transiting planets forming an aspect and more is best.
An opposition will not hurt you if you find a resolution by a sextile or trine.
Did I mention Jupiter, Jupiter and Jupiter!
Every chart is different, you may find a natal planet in soft aspect to the 2nd. Pay special attention to this planet.
Check if the 2nd House cusp is trining the MC.

My interest in all of this was sparked by trUR going through my 2nd house and trJU moving around one sensitive point in my natal chart. In my natal chart, I have a yod between MA, JU and UR as an apex planet (houses involved are 3rd, 5th and 10th). MA/JU midpoint is 6°33' Can. In my solar return for this year, MA is on that same degree down to a minute. I jokingly said to my friends that this is the year I win some money or I die. Jokes aside, I still picked up Rodden's book on lottery winners because I was curious. She mentions that trUR aspecting natal or progressed ASC and MC is one of the trigger points for winning. At the moment, trUR is going through my 2nd house and making a sextile to nASC, conjuncting prASC and soon trining prMC. So, I figured out - why not start a little project on the side and see what happens?

Thanks for mentioning natal planets in soft aspects to the 2nd house cusp! This idea crossed my mind but my focus was on other points in my chart. I do have 2nd house cusp on 10° Tau, nVE on 11° Vi (ruler of my 2nd), and NE on 11° Cap (ruler of my 1st, in n10th). I've made a spreadsheet with all the planets and soft aspects to these for this year.

For now, I only focused on diurnals. However, thanks to your 2nd house theory, I have a really nice date already picked on the 5th of July. Diurnal looks nice with my ruler of the 8th on the cusp of diurnal 2nd, tr MO cooperating. Event chart is also good - activated 2nd house cusp, trJU on MA/JU, trMO cooperating, midpoints activated, etc but I do not wish to spam you now about all the stuff happening.

In the meantime, I will be testing via transits and diurnals - so far, things are looking nice. I am hopeful!

Have a wonderful day,
Sandysand

I was wondering why you are using topocentric system. From my experience, people usually use Placidus as it is a default system for many web sites or whole sign houses. Have you tried using Porphyry for the 2nd/8th cusp event charts? I've seen some astrologers use it because the cusps are sensitive to the transits. I tried it in diurnals but haven't had much luck.

I started with Placidus as it is the one used by Sophia Mason in her book "The art of forecasting using diurnal charts".
Placidus is time-based while Topocentric is location-based but I have found the latter to be closer to my chart although both are similar to within a degree.
I use Topocentric for both diurnals and events charts.
I haven't tested Regiomontanus. I did test Koch but it was off by several degrees on the intermediate House cusps.
This being said, I don't make it as a universal rule as people are living on different geographical locations on Earth and for an unknown reason, it is very possible that another House system might work somewhere else.
You need to adjust.
One degree orb in the diurnal chart.
In the event chart, the closer the better. Say you have transiting Moon trine natal or transiting Jupiter connected to your natal or diurnal 2nd.
You want to see if any of these positions in the event chart will be
1) Angular
2) Angular by the midpoint
3) The midpoint = A/M midpoint
4) MO or JU conjunct the 2/8 axis
5) MO or JU conjunct another House cusp
6) POF or POS conjunct MO or JU
7) A planet Angular with the midpoint Planet/AS or Planet/MC crossing over the MO/JU midpoint.

Our national lottery has trial slot games online - I won two jackpots in roughly 10 minutes - trPOF applying and then separating. Amount won was 300 euros and I started with 10 euros. This is how I test some of these transits without actually paying money because, in the end, I am still a little bit cheap

Congrats! There are times when you need to be 'cheap' when you test the water (Saturn). It is called prudence. And times when you need to take a risk (Mars). I will go for a max bet when Jupiter is involved, in hard aspect to another planet with the midpoint culminating or rising over a natal Jupiter midpoint in the event chart.

You can draw a 6 point star chart from your 2nd House cusp adding VE and NE as they are trine to your 2nd House cusp.
Checking transits over this trio. Try to have a soft aspect between 2 transiting planets tied to the 6 star points. Best if you can get Jupiter as one of the planets.
There is more to investigate but that is a starting point.

Best to you,
Ouranos

P.S. My 2nd House cusp is trine my MC and I have Apollon (success, expansion) on the cusp of my 2nd House.
In between, Uranus in Cancer sextiling both Houses, in the midpoint. It took me quite a while to understand why when Uranus was receiving transits or culminating, it was lucky until I looked it up in the 6-star points.
A more practical approach would be to draw other star points based on the Harmonics (5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12) and see if other aspects besides sextiles and trines are involved.
The biggest success can be achieved through astrology. The biggest failure can also be achieved through astrology. We need to let go of pre-conceived ideas of what we have learned in astrology and start from an observer's mindset. I have had a lot of failures before coming up with the beginning of some understanding. And even with that, we cannot decide. Heaven decides. Our only choice is to recognize it when it happens and to surf with the tide.

Sorry for this late post
For those who have their 2nd House around 10-11 degrees of Fire and Air signs, the trine between the Sun and Jupiter is a very good opportunity right now.
Best if your diurnal also connects to the Sun or Jupiter. If it does, put either Angular or conjunct the 2/8 axis in an event chart. Or the MC in the midpoint SU/JU.
And try for the aspect close to exact as possible.

While my theory offers valuable insights, it is still subject to further testing and could potentially be challenged or disproven with new evidence or perspectives. It is not absolute and it would greatly benefit by teaming up with research from other astrologers.
The construction is like a pyramid. Everything is on the table.

Sandysand,
Can you elaborate more on your method? What you have tested?

Thank you,
Ouranos

Dear Ouranos,

Sorry for late response! I've been submerged into ephemerides, calculations, patterns and potential dates/times ever since I came across your 2nd/8th house theory.

To answer your question on other methods - so far, I was only doing diurnals and focused on diurnals alone. I've had mixed luck with them, usually winning 1 - 5 euros, not much actually. Except Mason's, I used Rodden's book on lottery winners. She has a list of "lucky placements". On top of that, I was just looking at secondary progressions and transits, but it was difficult for me to get the timing right. Unfortunately, I cannot give you any insight (sorry about that) but I am willing to test your theory. I hope other users from this thread come back and share their wisdom with you.

You might think that your theory can be disproven, but I am willing to test it out... or should I say I am willing to GAMBLE?
Yesterday, I was testing gambling waters as per your theory. As I mentioned above, there is a grand trine in my natal chart between 2nd cusp, VE (ruler of the 2nd) and NE (ruler of my 1st, in n10). This also puts VE/NE midpoint on top of the 8th house cusp. So, yesterday I did a little test to see how sensitive VE/NE midpoint in conjunction to my 8th house cusp is. I played a bit when trASC and POF were going over that midpoint and I won one jackpot - 56 euros. Testing time was about 8 minutes - applying and separating 1° for trASC. trPOF didn't bring much luck. But I am curious - is it only trASC? trJu was inconjunct that midpoint from 11° Gemini. Hmmm

I already made an excel with all the midpoints in my chart. I have to do one for antiscia as well. Next, I'll also make a table with all the conjunctions, sextiles and trines to 2nd house cusp, 8th house cusp and 11° Pisces for those grand trines. The plan is also to check diurnals for at least next three months so I can be a couple of steps ahead.

Sincerely,
Sandysand

EDIT:
I forgot to mention one more thing regarding your theory. I have other charts of people who are willing to gamble and I am going to try and test your theory with their charts. I've attached below one that is very interesting to me. It contains a grand cross between 2nd, 5th, 8th and 11th house cusps with Sun (ruler of the 2nd), Pluto (ruler of the 5th), POS and Mars (ruler of the 10th) with a little bit of a bigger orb (2°) in conjunction with these cusps. I was thinking on how to "soften" that grand cross. There will be a beautiful double working wedge pattern at the beginning of April with Jupiter on 16° Gemini and Sun on 16° Aries. I can't wait! It's a really nice chart to play around with!

Obviously, with these charts, I won't be able to test everything I would like to due to, well, life and circumstances it brings - if, for example, someone is working or has other obligations. Mason paid a lot of attention to 2nd/8th house cusps. You do too AND you have a 6page thread here where you tested this out.