Questions on love matter and career 1 by RainT6ddz ** I want to mention that part of this post includes vulnerable information** Career and love life and mentality aren't related, but I decided to put them down in one single post, hoping on traditional astrological approach. I've read my chart in different sites, but there was some information that really bothers me because two sites give some interpretation about a partner either a lot younger than me or a lot older than me and that I'd feel responsible about it. This bothers me and the fact that I cannot commit my feelings or anything if sexual. I really question the whole sexuality and love matter. In this chart the lord of sex is in detriment, but it is also the ruler of 7th house. While Venus, my ASC ruler is in Mars's exaltation. Is there something that I should worry about, as these sites mention a lot younger or a lot older partner??? My approach is very general and I can't go in that much depth. Sometimes I have vulnerable and labile thoughts and it's not even so much about sexuality, but aren't good ones to consider. Moon is in Libra which isn't one of the planet's best placements. IDK.. Is there something that morally should bother me be it in sexual matters or just *aside* from that? With animals, I have been at times agressive or people, but I mentally wasn't very stable and hope whatever it is, without going in details, there's nothing serious to these animals. And the other thing that the site mentions is that I'd do my career from home or be a teacher. I wonder if fashion, however, is involved or if I am at least travelling. For several years I've been thinking about modeling (and not the part of being a designer when it comes to it). The ruler of 10th house is in 4th, which is my home and at the same time the ruler of 4th is in 10th's, both in detriment. My guess is that my workplace would also be my home. Saturn rules 9th house as well, where Venus, my ASC ruler is, so I guess I'd travel. But This is very broad information and wonder what exactly would I do as my job... And is fashion/modeling part of it? Attachments horoscope-chart5-700__radix_20-1-2006_11-55.png Viewed 30613 times 202.54 KiB Quote Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:55 pm
Re: Questions on love matter and career 2 by Georgius Sorry, I don’t use whole sign houses to read a natal chart. So if you dont’t mind please tell your data so that one is able to look at the chart in his or her preferred way. I think I’m able to get this data from a chart with modern planets but there are none and it means some try and error work. I understand that you may want to preserve some privacy as this is a public forum, but if you don’t mind you could give your birth data per PN to me. I may put the chart with a quadrant house system into this thread without revealing time and place of birth if this is ok for you. Quote Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:58 am
Re: Questions on love matter and career 3 by Georgius RainT6ddz wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:55 pm Career and love life and mentality aren't related, but I decided to put them down in one single post, hoping on traditional astrological approach. My approach is traditional. RainT6ddz wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:55 pm I've read my chart in different sites,… There is a German saying meaning who, that asks a lot, gets misleaded a lot. RainT6ddz wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:55 pm …but there was some information that really bothers me because two sites give some interpretation about a partner either a lot younger than me or a lot older than me and that I'd feel responsible about it. This I cannot see. Do you know which signification should show this? So, I report my delination. I did not do a complete reading of this natal chart but concentrated at the three themes you mentioned. First I show the chart with Alcabitius houses and Mean Node: RanT6ddz_Radix.png Viewed 30569 times 184.37 KiB Lets start with Mentality: The Moon is natural significator for intuition and the non-rational part of the mind. Moon in Libra has essential dignity only by Decanate. She is conjunct South Node which brings her instability. The sextile to Saturn is able to stabilize a little bit. But Saturn is not in best condition too. Moon’s location in the 6th is not the best place for her. So intuition and feelings my be not very reliable. Mercury is the rational part of the mind. It is peregrine, somewhat lost and under sunbeams: It cannot see and cannot be seen. It is occidental: shows not all his cards. Moon and Mercury have a very wide square: There is some connection between them but there are troubles. What is interesting is that the Almuten for both (the planet with highest dignities at their locations) is Saturn. Saturn is in Exile but has dignity by Triplicity and Decanate. It is retrograde but angular and opposite the Sun. Hopefully he contributes stability and not that much delays, restrictions and anxiety. The Moon applying to a sextile to Saturn is seeking individuality, structure and safety. Vocation: The most important significator of vocation in this chart is Venus. (She is the Almuten of the chart with the highest dignities and L1 also.) Conjunct the Lot of Fortune she has even more strength. This shows that a profession in the field of creativity and aesthetics suits best. Venus sextiles Jupiter in mutual application. That brings attention, appreciation and honor. Not that much because Jupiter is peregrine but still it's the beneficial Jupiter. A creative job with much variety and dynamics and work with material will be fine. Maybe fashion is a little bit too venusian, Mars trines the MC and Saturn rules the 10th: A more tangible profession, maybe a sculptor or a stonecutter. (I do not think of being a teacher.) Relationships: Your natural expression in relationships is practical (AC in an earth sign). You want things to be done and aims to be achieved. You are looking for completition through a water sign (DC): searching for feelings. L7 Mars is in your 1st house: You dominate in relationships. There is a strong need for another (L1 trines L7 and there is a mixed mutual reception too). But maybe you idealise partnerships too much (L1 Venus in the exaltation of L7 Mars). There is an opposition between Mars and Jupiter (L8). Partners or partnerships can bring fear. You express attraction by doing something for the other one, wanting to help, to care and to assist. Physical action is important (Venus in Capricorn). This expression maybe a little bit dry. Things in partnerships tend to be easy (Sun trines Moon) but this also can show resignation. The Lot of marriage (and long time relationships) is located at 28°25' Scorpio and in trine with Mercury and Sun. Pleasure and communication is important. Your significators are mostly in fixed signs: You will have not that much relationships but enduring ones. Quote Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:27 pm
Re: Questions on love matter and career 4 by RainT6ddz Thanks. Well, the site point at Moon being at Scorpio shows some lust and this is as if we looked at the chart with Placidus. And Venus in Capricorn for having an affair with an a lot younger or a lot older partner for who I'd feel responsible. For fashion: I as if I could do this aside from study. My mother has been modeling and doing her studies at university and for that reason I wondered if I'd have this opportunity. I admit I'd take the role of the dominant in part of the relationship and act for showing assistance or help. In my last Martian relationship honestly I didn't have this opportunity and it was too formal, I wasn't really taking this part and the initiation for everything didn't come from me. And this relationship worked only because I wanted to go out somewhere with somebody and reveive attention, but everything was flat. I am into art and draw. I am not a great drawer, but slowly progress at this, it takes time, but I am not either the worst. For a while I've been thinking about being a teacher and just recently began thinking about being a graphic designer. I guess there's no travelling. Since I already made a post on horary, perhaps do you know of any signs in my chart that could point to homosexuality or bisexuality? My guess is Venus being in a cadent house and Saturn in detriment, not aspecting the ruler, could point at a "non-legal" relationship or affinity for such affairs. Quote Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:42 pm
Re: Questions on love matter and career 5 by Georgius RainT6ddz wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:42 pm Well, the site point at Moon being at Scorpio shows some lust and this is as if we looked at the chart with Placidus. And Venus in Capricorn for having an affair with an a lot younger or a lot older partner for who I'd feel responsible. As far as I know both of this delineations are not based on traditional knowledge before the end of the 17th century. — Why do you think Moon is in Scorpio with Placidus houses? When you were born all over the world Moon was in Libra of the tropical zodiac. RainT6ddz wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:42 pm For fashion: I as if I could do this aside from study. My mother has been modeling and doing her studies at university and for that reason I wondered if I'd have this opportunity. I said “Maybe fashion is a little bit too venusian…” If you like it then try it and you will see for yourself what suits you best. RainT6ddz wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:42 pm I am into art and draw. I am not a great drawer, but slowly progress at this, it takes time, but I am not either the worst. For a while I've been thinking about being a teacher and just recently began thinking about being a graphic designer. I guess there's no travelling. As I said aesthetics and creativity in vocation is indicated indeed. I cannot see teaching in your chart. But always remember I might be wrong. RainT6ddz wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:42 pm Since I already made a post on horary, perhaps do you know of any signs in my chart that could point to homosexuality or bisexuality? As far as I can see there is only one weak sign: Mercury conjunct Venus. But this is far too little. RainT6ddz wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:42 pm My guess is Venus being in a cadent house and Saturn in detriment, not aspecting the ruler, could point at a "non-legal" relationship or affinity for such affairs. If one considers the 5°-rule (and I do) Venus is not in a cadent house but in an angular house (the 10th). Saturn is in exile but has dignity by triplicity (dorothean triplicities) and by face (decan). So it is not really very bad. He could be much worse and there is no aspect to L1 Venus and only a very wide to L7 Mars which is seperative moreover. So I don’t think that Saturn indicates homo- or bisexuality. — I will look if I can find rules in old texts I possess. In this matter again: Take your time and you will know what suits you best. Which ruler did you mean Saturn does not aspect? Quote Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:45 pm
Re: Questions on love matter and career 6 by RainT6ddz Which ruler did you mean Saturn does not aspect? [/quote] That Saturn doesn't aspect venus at all. Idk of other indications Quote Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:50 am
Re: Questions on love matter and career 7 by Georgius You are right and that he doesn't aspect Venus is good in this context. Quote Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:06 am
Re: Questions on love matter and career 8 by RainT6ddz Georgius wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:06 am You are right and that he doesn't aspect Venus is good in this context. (Ptolemy, Book IV, chapter 5, page 25 in Robert Schmidt’s translation): “In the case of women one must investigate the star of Aphrodite. For when it is configured with the star of Zeus or the star of Hermes, it makes those who are temperate and pure in matters of love. But if the star of Kronos is absent while Aphrodite gains familiarity with Hermes, it makes women who are easily aroused and full of desire, but generally careful and hesitant, guarding against anything shameful. When the star of Aphrodite is present or configured with Ares alone, it makes women who are lascivious and debased and rather frivolous; and if the star of Zeus too is with them, should the star of Ares be under the beams of the Sun, they have intercourse with slaves and those of lower rank or with foreigners. But should the star of Aphrodite be so [situated], with superiors or masters, in the fashion of mistresses or adulteresses. And should the stars be feminized with respect to their places or figures[4], it makes them inclined to being controlled alone; but if masculinized, inclined to control women.” “Also, should one of the stars[5] be an evening star while the other is a morning star, it produces those who have relations with both males and females, but without overly many feelings toward either kind of person. But if both are evening stars, they will be inclined toward females alone; and if the zoidia are feminine, it makes men who are given over to being controlled”. Venus is aspecting Mars and one he is an evening star while Venus is a morning star, but in the first quote I think it's understood that Venus must be configured with Mars alone. Aside from that it is sextile Juliter and shares the same sign with Mercury but Saturn is absent. So I think these are positive indications on this subject. I haven't read Ptolemy's work, quoted it from a site. Quote Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:23 pm
Re: Questions on love matter and career 9 by james_m https://www.skyscript.co.uk/forumrules.html under forum policy #2 2 All members can make posts or start new threads as soon as they join the forum, but new members are not allowed to create threads on issues relating to their own chart (or a chart of personal interest to them) for the first 30 days of their membership. This is to discourage membership requests from people who want personal astrological readings rather than general astrological discussion. Please place new posts in the relevant forum. Each forum has a moderator’s comment explaining the purpose and expectations of that forum and it is in your interest to read that before posting. Quote Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:03 pm
Re: Questions on love matter and career 10 by Georgius RainT6ddz wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:23 pm (Ptolemy, Book IV, chapter 5, page 25 in Robert Schmidt’s translation) Thank you for this hint! I own a translation and will read it (again). Quote Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:16 am
Re: Questions on love matter and career 11 by horace I'm sorry. When I read the natal chart, I will use Arabic Parts and Duodecimal Charts. So, if you don't mind, please provide your birth data. I understand that since this is a public forum, you may want to keep your privacy. But if you don't mind, you can send me your birth data via private message. If we only interpret the chart using the Whole Sign House system: In terms of career: The only career-related planet in the 10th house or its four angles is Mars, and Mars is strongly advancing in the 1st house. Mars has no rulership relationship with the 10th house, but Mars is one of the triplicity rulers of the Ascendant. Mars will be related to your career. Jupiter, the Sun, and Saturn may also be related to your career, although they are not among the three main career planets. Although Venus is not in the 10th house, here is a key piece of information. We need to know whether Venus ends its retrograde state in about 7 days. Unfortunately, this information cannot be seen just from the chart you provided. If Venus ends its retrograde in about 7 days, then Venus will become the strongest symbol of your career. In terms of career, it may involve these characteristics - physical strength or aggressiveness, strategy, leadership (Mars), and a focus on fame/public image/leadership (the Sun). Mars not only represents physical activities such as sports, the construction industry, mechanical work, or dangerous jobs but also often indicates the development of competitive skills, such as leadership skills. Due to Mars, the use of strategies, radical competitive methods, more aggressive management roles, or highly competitive political roles will be closely related to your career. Based on the current available information, we cannot determine whether the career will involve Venus (performance and image building). If Venus ends its retrograde in about 7 days, or the information in the Duodecimal Chart shows a connection with the career, the combination of Mars in the Ascendant and Venus does fit well with the fashion industry and the modeling industry. Mercury is combust and is not in the 10th house or its four angles. I don't think you will become a teacher. In terms of love: Venus is in the 9th house and conjunct with Mercury. Your future partner may be someone you meet during your travels or a foreigner/person from another place. The other person has a deep connection with things related to the occult or religion. Venus falling in Saturn's sign does make it possible that the age of the partner may differ greatly from yours. In modern society, the partner could be either younger or older than you. However, since Saturn does not form an aspect with Venus, this is not a very strong symbolic indication. It is also a symbol that the other person likes ancient things or is relatively traditional and conservative. English is not my mother tongue, so I used a translation software for this passage. If any of the words I used offend or discomfort you, I'm very sorry. That's not my intention. Best regards! Quote Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:26 am
Re: Questions on love matter and career 12 by Tanit3333 Hello, I agree with James regarding new members posting personal matters, but in general members are not encouraged to post personal matters as their primary interaction in the forums. The forums are for serious students and practioners of astrology, it is not a means of free unlimited divination services. I have noticed you have posted many personal matters while not interacting in the other threads at all. Even if you were a longterm member, this would not be something that we want to encourage. It is fine to post something personal if you think other members might learn and discuss astrological matters. It is also just bad karma to take and not give back in life, IMO. This is true of any community space. I would encourage all members to report posts they think abuse the forum rules. There is a way for moderators to track how many times a member has been notified of abusing the rules. Quote Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:10 am