Major League Baseball Playoffs 1 by Tom While there are a host of games this one interests me. The New York Yankees, the USA's answer to Mancheser United, begin the first round of the playoffs against the Detroit Tigers. Game time is 8:05 PM EDT. The location is the Bronx, New York. For those who don't know, the Bronx is one of the five buroughs that make up New York City so NYC can be used as a location. The Yankees will begin the series as favorites, although the Tigers cannot be taken lightly. Taurus rises giving the Yankees Venus in Libra and Scorpio is on the DSC giving the Tigers Mars in Libra. The Yanks are strong but the strongest team doesn't always win. What is troubling me, I'm a life long Yankee fan, is that Venus is heading straight to combustion. The Sun is overtaking Mars as well, but Mars is said to avoid combustion as he is hotter and drier than the Sun. Still it canot be ignored. This is a miserable chart to judge, and I've had this feeling for several years that the nature of baseball playoffs don't lend themselves very well to astrology. Anyway if we arbitarily move the Moon 5 degrees to judge the flow of the game we see the Moon making no aspects but changing signs indicating a low scoring game won at the very end by - woe is me- the Tigers. Only because Jupiter is sitting on the 7th cusp and is the exaltation ruler of the turned 10th, Tigers' trophy. Ugh I hope I'm wrong. Tom Quote Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:05 am
2 by Ficina Hi Tom, Venus is conj Part of Fortune (not reversed), which according to JF is a good testimony for a win. Venus is also opp Part of Victory. I've only seen this once before and contrary to expectation it went in Venus's favour (even with Part of Success conj Desc, the other team still lost). Antiscion Venus is conj N Node. Not sure how reliable this is. Again I've only seen it once before where it didn't work but that was because NN was in 4th so favoured the other team. Void Moon usually indicates a draw. However Moon applies to conj antiscion Mercury, which isn't a sig for either team but at least it shows something is happening. As far as I can see, Mars has absolutely nothing going for it. So with the favourable indications for Venus listed above, I'm going for a win for the Yankees Cheers, Ficina Quote Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:27 pm
3 by Tom Hi Ficina, I am by nature a pessimist. I will go over everything you said in depth. Thanks for the encouragement. I'm assuming that as a British subject, you don't know very much about baseball. Forgive me if I'm wrong. It is impossible for a draw to occur in any professional baseball game. They just keep playing until someone wins. There is no clock. Testimonies for a draw in baseball might mean the game will go into extra innings, which is the way that ties are settled. Each team gets another "at bat" until one team out-scores the other. It is very rare for a game to go on for so long that they have to hold off until the next day. It ain't cricket. But weather delays do occur. However it is sunny and gorgeous today in the New York City area. Go Yanks. Tom "I hate all sports as much as the average sports fan hates common sense." - H.L. Mencken Quote Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:46 pm
4 by Ficina I'm assuming that as a British subject, you don't know very much about baseball. Forgive me if I'm wrong. Yes, you are wrong. I know absolutely nothing about baseball, lol! I wouldn't even have known it was a baseball match if you hadn't mentioned it part way through your post. I would probably have presumed it was American football or possibly hockey or something. Please excuse my ignorance. I shall try and get more clued up. I guess the game will finish way past my bedtime so I shall have to wait until tomorrow to find out what happens. Optimistically, Ficina Quote Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:39 pm
6 by Tom I got everything wrong. First off the first pitch was at 8:20 pm, but the chart didn't change all that much. The Moon is void of course and I suppose I should have argued that is a strong indication that the favorite will win. It just didn't occur to me. The flow of the game went this way. After a couple of scoreless innings the Yankees exploded for 5 runs and it looked like they would coast the rest of the way. But the Tigers fought back with three runs of their own, and that was as close as they got. They Yanks would score three more and the Tigers would pick up one. Derek Jeeter, Yankee star shortstop and heartthrob (Jeeter has probably brought more teenage girls and young women to the sport than anyone ever has), had an outstanding night, but I did not. Here's the hard part. Tonight the same teams meet at the same place at the same time. The chart will change only a little bit except for the Moon. How do we find a posible different outcome? Also, what everyone in this part of the country wants is a World Series involving the New York Yankees and the New York Mets. Supposing that happens, all games will be played within a few miles of each other, and most of them will start at the same time. This is why I don't think the baseball playoffs and World Series lend themselves to astrological forcasting, but we can always try. Nice job Ficina. Tom Quote Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:48 am
7 by Ficina Here's the hard part. Tonight the same teams meet at the same place at the same time. The chart will change only a little bit except for the Moon. How do we find a posible different outcome? Which time do we use? According to the Yankees website it's 8pm so I've looked at a chart for that time. There are mixed messages in this chart which does make it hard. This time PoF is conj Mars but since it is disposited by Venus I'm not sure if it will go in Tigers' favour or not, although Moon conj Uranus suggests an upset. The Moon will conj antiscion PoF (for the Yankees presuming they are favourites) and antiscion Mars (the Tigers). Too many mixed messages, as I said, so we'll just have to see what happens. At least it should provide some useful pointers for the future. Supposing that happens, all games will be played within a few miles of each other, and most of them will start at the same time. No point doing it if that's the case. The only footie matches I look at here are those that kick off at different times from the regular 3pm Saturday slot. There are usually only about half a dozen of these over the weekend if I'm lucky. Cheers, Ficina Quote Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:52 pm
8 by Tom I'd use 8:20 PM EDT, the time of the beginning of the game. 8:00 pm is when the Television stuff starts and all the hoopla takes about 20 minutes or so. You checked out the Yankee website? What next? The official team photo in your living room? If you ever get to the US, I'm sure your only thought will be to make a pilgrimage to the Bronx to visit Yankee Satdium. Yankee haters will roll their eyes, but if baseball was a religion, Yankee Stadium would be its cathedral. It was built in 1923 and renovated in the late 1960s and sadly, a new Stadium is about to be built nearby, to replace it. It's held championship boxing matches, American Football Championships, and even Roman Catholic Masses have been said here by the Pope. It has quite a history. Tom Quote Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:38 pm
9 by Ficina At 8.20 the Moon/Uranus conj is exact. Moon still applies to conj antiscion Mars. If it was footie I'd say that would mean a goal for Tigers but not necessarily that they'd win. Antiscion Venus is still conj NN but not as close as yesterday. Another possible testimony is Venus applying to L5 (Sun) which we also had yesterday although I didn't mention it. I'm still not sure about this one. What do you think? You checked out the Yankee website? What next? The official team photo in your living room? It was the best place I could think of for finding out yesterday's result! Cheers, Ficina Quote Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:15 pm
10 by Tom At 8.20 the Moon/Uranus conj is exact. Moon still applies to conj antiscion Mars. If it was footie I'd say that would mean a goal for Tigers OK I've got my work cut out for me. :-) I've got to turn you into a baseball fan. First, you need to learn the terminology. Lesson 1: Scoring. Baeball teams score "runs." That might be the same in cricket, I don't know or maybe rounders, a game I know even less about. But the proper term is "runs." The Tigers score a run. Obviously whoever scores the most runs, wins. The pitcher throws the ball to the catcher and the batter, standing in front of the catcher tries to hit the ball with his bat. Now at the highest levels of the sport, the pitcher is throwing a small ball (about 5 inches in diameter) at over 90 miles an hour from 60 feet six inches away. He throws the ball in such a fashion as to make ball curve, or drop or move in one way or another in order to make it dificult fo the batter to hit it. But if he does hit it, he then runs to first base, and if he gets to the base safely (that's another lesson) he either continues or stays there in the hopes of a subsequent batter or batters will move him from first to second base to third base and back to home plate where he scores a run. The bases are 90 feet apart and the baseball "diamond" is really a square tilted on its side. In order to truly enjoy watching a baseball game you must eat hotdogs and other junk food while washing it down with beer, all of which are served at the stadium for outrageous prices. In our next esson we will learn why players who earn millions of dollars a year for playing a boys' game are often called "bums," by the fans. As for tonight. Let's employ the default option. Unless the chart shows strong reasons for the underdog to win, the favorite will win. I'm going with the Yanks tonight. And if the Yankees do win tonight, we get out the brooms. Figure out that bit of slang Tom Quote Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:09 pm
11 by Ficina Many thanks for the entertaining baseball lesson It sounds just like rounders which I used to play at school - badly. Going for the default option tonight sounds like a safe bet. "Get out the brooms"............ make a clean sweep? Cheers, Ficina Quote Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:08 pm
12 by Tom Many thanks for the entertaining baseball lesson It sounds just like rounders which I used to play at school - badly. Just to be boringly serious for a moment, no one knows exactly where baseball came from or why - or when for that matter. For years and years it was considered to be a descendant of cricket and I think some of the terminology is borrowed from cricket, but more recent scholarship (yes there are baseball "scholars;" like the British we take sports very seriously over here) says it more closely resembles rounders. I have to confess I know absolutely nothing about rounders other than its name. It was believed, wrongly, that the first rules were written by one Abner Doubleday, an American Civil War general and the first field laid out in pastoral Cooperstown, NY. Nice myth, but historically inaccurate. A possible reference to the game was located in a late 18th century newspaper. Other more solid references have been located in periodicals dating from the 1820s - 1840s. Regardless of it origins, it became wildly popular and known as "The National Pastime," which it was until American football passed it in popularity within the last couple of decades. "Get out the brooms"............ make a clean sweep? Not bad. This round is a best of five series. If a team wins the first three games, it is said that they "swept" the losers. If you get within one game of a sweep, partisans start clamoring to "get out the brooms." It is considered a lack of etiquette to call for getting out the brooms until your team is within one game of a sweep. I'll know you are a full fledged fan when you can accurately describe the infield fly rule. The next two series are best of seven affairs. Go Yanks. Tom Quote Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:42 pm