So we've got to do it all over again! That will teach them not to schedule a game on a Moon/Uranus conjunction! It's rescheduled for 1.05pm today but should we take that to be 1.20pm like last time?

I'll know you are a full fledged fan when you can accurately describe the infield fly rule.

If it's as complicated as trying to describe the offside rule in footie (no, I'm not saying it's the same thing btw) then I won't even go there

There doesn't seem to be any mention of teams playing 'at home' or 'away'. Does that happen? I don't understand baseball but used to love playing rounders.

Deb wrote:

There doesn't seem to be any mention of teams playing 'at home' or 'away'. Does that happen?

Sure does, and for the record, the first game and the second are being played in New York so the Yankees are the home team. Many astrologers give the home team the ASC and the visitor the 7th cusp. The method I'm using (badly) is that the favorite gets the ASC regardless of whether he is home or away.

Ficina wrote:

It's rescheduled for 1.05pm today but should we take that to be 1.20pm like last time?

Yeah I would. This changes the houses quite a bit. Same place - Bronx, NY

If it's as complicated as trying to describe the offside rule in footie

It's sneakier and it was devised to avoid sneaky plays by defense. Offsides is designed to prevent offense from taking an unfair advantage.

Ready? In order for the infield fly rule to be in effect, there has to be less than two outs and runners on first and second or first second and third. If the batter hits a ball high enough and in the infield (a judgment left to the discretion of the umpire), the batter is automatically out and runners advance at their own risk. The fact that the rule requires two men to be on base that confuses peole; they think it should apply when a man is only on first.

You see if a runner is off his base when a fly ball (ball hit in the air) is caught (before it hits the ground) and the ball is thrown to a neaby defenseman who tags the base before the runner returns, the runner is out as the runner cannot advance on a caught fly ball until a) after the ball is caught, and b) he must start while actually touching the base. Well if there are two men (one on first and one on second base) or three men on base and a soft fly (easy ball to catch before it hits the ground) or high pop (ball hit way up in the air but not very far) the fielder could deliberately drop the ball. The runners, who are staying on their base because they must until after the ball is caught or they risk being thrown out, are then forced to run to the next base (which is why this rule doesn't apply when men are on second and third; they aren't "forced" to run to the next base as first base is open). This would allow the defense to turn an easy double play getting two outs on the soft fly rather than just one. The infield fly rule does not apply to line drives. See?

I'll check the chart later.

Tom

Many astrologers give the home team the ASC and the visitor the 7th cusp. The method I'm using (badly) is that the favorite gets the ASC regardless of whether he is home or away.

Fortunately the Yankees are the home team and the favourites so the problem doesn't arise. I prefer to give the home team the Asc regardless but ever since Peter (Aquirata) disputed this I have been keeping an eye on it, as promised. So far I have only seen two matches where it would have made sense to have given the faves the Asc when they were the away team. Two is not enough for me to change my method but I'll keep monitoring it.

Surprise, surprise, I did understand your excellent explanation of the inside fly rule. It does help having played rounders - the games are very similar.

On to today's chart. The 1.20 time looks better for the Yankees as it moves Pluto further into 12th. It was worryingly close to the Asc at the earlier time. Mercury is in 10th. In footie matches here, this has favoured the away team (angularity). However, this was when Mercury was in Libra ruled by strong Venus or M/R Venus. No experience of it so far in Scorpio so will have to see. I can't see anything else significant except Moon conj NN which will hopefully be enough to give the game to the Yankees.

I did understand your excellent explanation of the inside fly rule.

Couldn't have been too excellent; it's the infield fly rule.

Now that you undestand it, you may consider yourself a full fledged baeball fan or you may do that once you select a team. Should you ever want to become a baseball insider, you must master the balk rule, and I won't explain it. After that you have to master a few cliches and learn to like hot dogs, peanuts and beer - particularly beer. Mastering the New York City Subway system is for advanced fans only.

I checked the chart and labored for naught. It's a bit overcast at the moment (I live about 35 miles from Yankee Stadium), but the forecast shows no rain. So the game will be played because unlike astrologers, meteorologists' predictions are never wrong.

Sagittarius rises so the Yankees get the ASC and the Tigers get Mercury. Both planets are in Scorpio. Both planets are peregrine. The only advantage is that Mercury is slightly better placed in the 10th house than Jupiter is in the 11th. But Mercury isn't in the sign on the 10th cusp. Is this tiny advantage enough to win?

The Moon is no help being separated from both significators. Here comes the stretch: the Moon translates light from Saturn, exaltation ruler of the Yankee's trophy (the MC) to the ASC, therefore the Yankees win a close game.

I hope the charts for the next round of playoffs give us more to work with.

Ahh the Sun just came out, a sure sign of a Yankee victory.

Tom

Couldn't have been too excellent; it's the infield fly rule.

At the risk of getting beaten up by Deb et al for saying this, another point in Yankees' favour which I neglected to mention is the Moon loves Jupiter

oh dear, yes, I was following the game online (sad or what?) on Yahoo Sports. I guess it must've been Mercury in 10th that swayed it but did you notice what time the game actually started? Cos I've got a feeling it started before 1.20, in which case Pluto would have been nearer Asc and Mars nearer MC.

Commiserations,
Ficina

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I often experience the Void of Course Moon send the public astray so that certainly in horseraces the favourites often didn't perform and the outsiders stood a better chance. I also thought the the Moon's quincunx aspect often showed a 'long shot'.

The Moon tranisiting any sign seemed to offer strength to the team represented by that sign and if they are the underdogs they are hard to beat. Then in competitions the Moon in one sign often gave impediment to those represented by the opposite.

There are probably many ways at getting at a chart to judge the outcome of who should win, but again I often found the the ascendant or planets casting dignities to the ascendant showed the winner.

http://www.astronor.com/worldcup86.htm
http://www.astronor.com/worldcup06.htm

This is because the ascendant is place of exaltation in any chart, where force is at it's most competitive.

In the discovery charts of the outer planets, those signs accounted to the planets exaltation always appears on the ascendant.

Cheers! Andrew

the tigers win the pennent, have they ever won the league before?

Granny