Will her mother in law be homeless? Will she get money to be okay? 1 by maleja.rangel Hey, How are you? Hope everything is okay and have a lovely easter Im here to ask you some advice about reading a chart because is a very sensitive topic and also im quite bad reading turned charts (they are always tricky). This person approach to me because her mother in law is about to be homeless, she has no money to pay rent or live properly, she was counting on a friend but that person didnt deliver the help he promised it. She says her mother in law is kind of a bad person but she doesnt want her to be in such a difficult situation (they cant properly help her because the lack of money, also the mother in law live with 2 animals and like 15 cats) 1. the first thing is see who she is in the chart, her partner is the 7th house, so in this case the mother in law should be the turned 10th house, in this case represented by Mars in Leo ( peregrine) with a very difficult opposition to Pluto (i know Pluto isnt used in horary astrology but is saying something and isnt good) In many cases i have seen How the oppositition of Pluto causes many problems, Facing a very intense, possibly destructive situation, is like she is indirect conflict with a force stronger than herself, overwhelmed, possibly being forced to let go of something she’s been clinging to, often shows a crisis point , a confrontation that must be faced. It might feel like she has no choice, and something big is being taken away, especially connected to control, stability, or past security. Its curious How is in the 5th 11th turned houses, is standing at the crossroads of personal pride and emotional desire (5th) versus social support and hope for the future (11th) — and its like she’s about to experience the disintegration of the support she assumed would catch her. Also Mars comes from a square from the sun in Taurus in the cusp of her 2th house. 2. Her house i guess is represented by Mercury in Leo, the last aspect was a trine to her Significator. Mercury is conjunct the ic, meaning that she is thinking a lot about that situation, the past trine could represent a no? 3. I also check her “money houses” looking for some help, 2nd house in Venus, no aspecting her, her 8th house (Mars again) (i wouldnt know in this case if i can use the moon, i dont think thats posible) and her 11th house ( saturn) no aspects either. The lacks of futures aspects to her Significator just show she has run out of options, contacts, or momentum, is like can’t initiate change on her own and she may be waiting, passive, or dependent on others’ actions. I dont see How this chart can good AT ALL but I hope you guys with all ur knowledge can give me more insights. Ps: she is living the actual Pluto Mars opposition in her natal, because Transit Mars is exactly conjunct her ic and Transit Pluto is exactly conjunct her MC, and its curious How that represented her so well in the horary chart Comments or advices would be very much appreciated. Thank you so much guys Have a lovely week Last edited by maleja.rangel on Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:08 am, edited 1 time in total. Quote Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:44 pm
Re: Will her mother in law be homeless? Will she get money to be okay? 2 by astroeve Hi there, Can you please post the chart data: date, time and location? The chart image is very small and blurry. I would like to see where the Moon is going and has been, but can not make any of the degrees out. Thank you Quote Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:15 am
Re: Will her mother in law be homeless? Will she get money to be okay? 3 by maleja.rangel astroeve wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:15 am Hi there, Can you please post the chart data: date, time and location? The chart image is very small and blurry. I would like to see where the Moon is going and has been, but can not make any of the degrees out. Thank you Hi there, oh no, i pósted it wrong, let me attach it the right way I also edited it in the initial post. Thank you Thank you so much for Ur help Quote Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:08 am
Re: Will her mother in law be homeless? Will she get money to be okay? 4 by Tanit3333 Is there a neighbor or sibling that might be able to help? I'm wondering about the symbolism of the Moon in a sign of Pisces, domicile of the ascendant lord, in the radical 3rd applying to the ascendant lord. I wonder if she's just Jupiter - 7th house makes me think of homelessness with the person in question is essentially weak here. I actually experienced homelessness with my family (as a child) during a bad 7th house transit. Being in the 8th could suggest something simular though (derived lord in radical 8th). Quote Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:17 pm
Re: Will her mother in law be homeless? Will she get money to be okay? 5 by Vyri Should'nt you make the 4th house the Mother In Law? The husband is the 7th house, count from there 10 houses and the 4th is represented as the Mother of the husband. Mercury represents the 7th house the new dwelling, the son and the cats, is very close to the 4th house cusp, I don't think the Mother will be out of a place to live because of the closeness of Mercury to the 4th about to enter into the domain of the Mothers personal being (Aries, energized thoughts of new beginnings) a stance of disposition, i.e., possible news about a new living arrangement is about to ensue. Information (Mercury) and children or youth; (cats are represented by Mercury) the planet will be assisting and aiding of an arrival to accomidate the Mother in law. Mercury rules the 7th house, Gemini on the cusp, information from a neighbor or siblings, children are a help. Mars opposes change, Pluto in Aquarius...the actions (Mars) of, the Mother may be stark and rebellious, giving a 'not willing to budge' attitude. Pluto in Aquarius is the hopes to move but the opposition represents the Mother opposing the connection with the outside world Pluto. It is a tempest that will stir but all in all I believe the Mother will be able to be released from the 12th to the 4th house (Mother) plantets in the 12th (the 3rd house represents the 12th house to the Mother's 4th) as a worry only. Pisces can be a sign of self undoing and other maladies brought upon the individual of their own undoing, the individual asked about, but the sign can also only represent worries and troubles where the mind can take us. (Mercury in Aries in her 12th). Hope all goes well for the Mother in Law. Perhaps the son (Mercury) will help the Mother out monetarily $$, Taurus is a sign of increase. Hoping the son will continue to look for a place for his Mother to go, as well as aid with the cat situation? Please update about the courses taken. Yours in Astrology Vyri "Omnia Numeris Sita Sunt" = Latin for; "Everything is veiled in number" "Ye Stars which are the glory of Heaven!" If in your bright leaves we would read the fate of men and empires, "tis to be forgiven"- Lord Byron Quote Sun Apr 27, 2025 4:19 pm
Re: Will her mother in law be homeless? Will she get money to be okay? 6 by Vyri Generally speaking, the 7th house from the querent asked about registers the removal house or home. I have taken the natural 7th to indicate favorable testimony by Mercury. It is tricky to locate the appropriate house to demonstrate the outcome sometimes. I have included the 10th ruled of Venus exalted in Pisces as the 7th house from the querents 4th, (The Mother). Venus is in the 3rd house but in technicality it is the 12th house from the querent, a place Pisces is familiar with as a house. I think the cats will be diminished in some way, and still an opportunity will arise for the Mother to vacate to a new place (Venus exalted ruler of the new house Libra represents, counting 7 houses from the 4th. Venus sooths the way that Jupiter is despiteful of, even so both protectorates. I am curious to know the outcome using either the natural 7th or the 10th house counting 7 houses from the 4th. Both houses rules the new residence in some respect. Please update. "Omnia Numeris Sita Sunt" = Latin for; "Everything is veiled in number" "Ye Stars which are the glory of Heaven!" If in your bright leaves we would read the fate of men and empires, "tis to be forgiven"- Lord Byron Quote Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:07 pm
Re: Will her mother in law be homeless? Will she get money to be okay? 7 by oliver888 I’m really sorry about your mother-in-law’s situation. Yeah, the chart looks rough, but maybe the best move is to check out rent-assistance programs or local charities. Friends or family might kick in for rent or groceries, and animal shelters could help with her pets for a bit. Quote Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:50 pm
Re: Will her mother in law be homeless? Will she get money to be okay? 8 by Tanit3333 , the 7th house from the querent asked about registers the removal house or home I don't remember the source of this but I agree with this statement and that is what I use as well when someone asks me about homelessness. The problem with derived querents is that it gets messy. Ultimately, I would check that her significator fits her properly before proceeding. The planer/sign/house lord sign should fit the person being asked about. Deb assigns homeless people the 12th house, so not being in the 12th or with the 12th lord could be a pro. Quote Fri May 02, 2025 11:27 pm
Re: Will her mother in law be homeless? Will she get money to be okay? 9 by maleja.rangel Hello everyone, I must say Im really thankfull with all your feedback and I'm also impressed with the help received. I didn't reply before because I was giving some time to know the consecuences of all this. This woman has not been homeless since the moment we did the question until now (Just yet and I hope isn't happening but honestly i don't know) (it's been two months also). The first month between her son and his wife, they managed to borrow money from someone who we know has a lot of money. they are paying this person monthly but the problem is there is no way to do anything else. She also had help from his brother who lives in Thailand, from a neighbor who lent her some money and from a friend, so she can complete the second month. Now she is going into the third month but she really only has 100 euros in her account. They have helped her with food and to pay for her health, but it is very difficult for them to take care of all her expenses. Nothing has happened with her cats, and she says she's not interested in giving them away because they're like family to her. She's tried to get a job, she's made commercial offers because she works with art and commodities, but absolutely nothing has happened. It's as if the doors are always closing. I know that from an external point of view, this is a karmic situation and must be lived and really from my position I know that whatever has to happen, will simply happen. In her natal chart she has quite complicated transits that are already dissipating but there are the consequences. Do you think it's necessary to ask another time question in this situation, or should we wait for something extraordinary to happen? Im posting the chart again. Thank you so much again Last edited by maleja.rangel on Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:40 pm, edited 1 time in total. Quote Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:37 pm
Re: Will her mother in law be homeless? Will she get money to be okay? 10 by maleja.rangel Tanit3333 wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:17 pm Is there a neighbor or sibling that might be able to help? I'm wondering about the symbolism of the Moon in a sign of Pisces, domicile of the ascendant lord, in the radical 3rd applying to the ascendant lord. I wonder if she's just Jupiter - 7th house makes me think of homelessness with the person in question is essentially weak here. I actually experienced homelessness with my family (as a child) during a bad 7th house transit. Being in the 8th could suggest something simular though (derived lord in radical 8th). Exactly what happened, at least during these months, (son and wife) helped for the first month, during the second month was help from sibling and neighbor and a friend. Not experience homelessness yet, but third month looks quite chaotic. I'm so so sorry about your experience, that's something nobody should went trought and less as a child, i hope you have heal from that situation. Last edited by maleja.rangel on Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:39 pm, edited 2 times in total. Quote Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:39 pm
Re: Will her mother in law be homeless? Will she get money to be okay? 11 by maleja.rangel Vyri wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 4:19 pm Should'nt you make the 4th house the Mother In Law? The husband is the 7th house, count from there 10 houses and the 4th is represented as the Mother of the husband. Mercury represents the 7th house the new dwelling, the son and the cats, is very close to the 4th house cusp, I don't think the Mother will be out of a place to live because of the closeness of Mercury to the 4th about to enter into the domain of the Mothers personal being (Aries, energized thoughts of new beginnings) a stance of disposition, i.e., possible news about a new living arrangement is about to ensue. Information (Mercury) and children or youth; (cats are represented by Mercury) the planet will be assisting and aiding of an arrival to accomidate the Mother in law. Mercury rules the 7th house, Gemini on the cusp, information from a neighbor or siblings, children are a help. Mars opposes change, Pluto in Aquarius...the actions (Mars) of, the Mother may be stark and rebellious, giving a 'not willing to budge' attitude. Pluto in Aquarius is the hopes to move but the opposition represents the Mother opposing the connection with the outside world Pluto. It is a tempest that will stir but all in all I believe the Mother will be able to be released from the 12th to the 4th house (Mother) plantets in the 12th (the 3rd house represents the 12th house to the Mother's 4th) as a worry only. Pisces can be a sign of self undoing and other maladies brought upon the individual of their own undoing, the individual asked about, but the sign can also only represent worries and troubles where the mind can take us. (Mercury in Aries in her 12th). Hope all goes well for the Mother in Law. Perhaps the son (Mercury) will help the Mother out monetarily $$, Taurus is a sign of increase. Hoping the son will continue to look for a place for his Mother to go, as well as aid with the cat situation? Please update about the courses taken. Yours in Astrology Vyri Vyri, thank you so much for your amazing feedback. It's happened exactly like this. The first month her husband and his wife were able to help her, the second month it's been helped by a neighbor, her brother, and a friend. The situation hasn't changed, and this is the third month. She's tried doing things to earn money, but nothing's worked out. We've suggested giving the animals to homes several times, but she doesn't want to. She has a Taurus moon at 0 degrees, so Pluto in Aquarius is doing some crazy things there. The situation is really worrying but it always seems that it is resolved somehow, only this time his son and wife no longer have the way to help her, thanks to her son and wife job they have been able to help her with her food and her health but we cannot cover all her expenses. Do you think that a chart should be made again in some way? She asked me about an art deal a few days ago that could change her life, but I didn't see it as very favorable for her receiving a commission. Thank you very much for your time Quote Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:45 pm