Hi there - Donald Trump and Elon Musk are going toe to toe in what looks like a serious breakdown in their relationship. I don't think you have to be an astrologer to have seen this coming. It always seemed on the cards.

Trump is nearing his 2025 solar return. I have posted the chart below (tropical, Porphyry, set for his birthplace). My eye is immediately drawn to the nodal axis across his SR horizon. The natal/return sun is square to the horizon and exactly square the nodal axis (on the bendings). Moreover, the natal Sun and return Sun are precisely on the return MC. It's literally high noon for Trump, and the whole of the return year looks quite dramatic.

The nodal axis across the horizon immediately raises the question of the forthcoming eclipses:

S/L Type Date Moon Magnitude Saros

Lunar Total 07/09/2025 14:12 15°24' Pisces 1.362132 128
Solar Partial 21/09/2025 15:42 28°59' Virgo 0.855362 154 9 New South
Solar Ann 17/02/2026 07:12 28°56' Aquarius 0.963758 121 10 North
Lunar Total 03/03/2026 06:34 12°52' Virgo 1.150653 133

These eclipses make some huge hits on Trump's return chart and his natal chart. The solar eclipse (albeit annular not total) on 17 Feb 2026 hits close on his natal ascendant and descendant axis and his natal Mars. The partial solar eclipse on 21 Sept 2025 hits hard on his return horizon.

Potentially tough times ahead for the self-styled King of America.


Thanks for reading. Ed

Here is Trump's SR for 2025 on the inner chart with his natal chart on the outer wheel. Of course his natal nodal axis is square his return nodal axis further emphasising the sense of critical times ahead. This is because the degrees of the eclipses at the time of his birth (one of which was the full moon immediately after his birth are broadly square the upcoming 2025-2026 eclipses.


Ed

Trump made a bad decision to incorporate all the billionaires into his administration. they all need to leave. parasites, all of them.

but this bust up is Musk’s show. its his chart thats leading this fracas. its the Musk show.

Trump here is just following, responding. mostly out of confusion. He clearly doesnt understand the Musk drama and is supplying a reasonable excuse towards an unreasonable event. he should zip it and let Musk move on.

Hi Calli -

Trump made a bad decision to incorporate all the billionaires into his administration.

Indeed - this may well come back to haunt him. He needed the cash, but can he now cut them loose?

He should zip it

But can Trump zip it! He doesn't seem 'tight-lipped' to me!

The rest of June is critical for Trump, particularly the couple of days leading up to his solar return, and then around a week later on the 18th June.

We will see how Trump handles these next couple of weeks because I think they might be decisive in how events unfold over the next 6-9 months due to the eclipses.

Ed

astralwanderer wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 3:44 pm Hi Calli -

Trump made a bad decision to incorporate all the billionaires into his administration.

Indeed - this may well come back to haunt him. He needed the cash, but can he now cut them loose?

He should zip it

But can Trump zip it! He doesn't seem 'tight-lipped' to me!

The rest of June is critical for Trump, particularly the couple of days leading up to his solar return, and then around a week later on the 18th June.

We will see how Trump handles these next couple of weeks because I think they might be decisive in how events unfold over the next 6-9 months due to the eclipses.

Ed

15 june is the most dangerous for him according to Chinese astrology. But in spite of the attack from yin wood this year he is protected by the fire snake

Hi there - Trump is within a day of a highly significant Mars return. The Mars return, which occurs tomorrow, itself occurs within two days of his SR for 2025. The Mars return occurs within hours of a full moon at 23 Sagittarius. So on the 11 March 2025 Trump approaches his solar return, experiences a full moon lunar return and experiences a Mars return. This is astrological heavy weather in my book. The situation in LA has all the hallmarks of a Martian situation, with police and military forces trying to quell protests. Trump doesn't seem to be in any mood to calm the situation, which is not surprising given the astrology.

In the following biwheel, the Mars return chart, set for his birthplace, is the inner wheel and his birth chart is on the outer wheel.




This is the Mars return as a standalone chart:




Ed

Here is Trump's diurnal chart for 11 June 2025. He is two days from his SR so the angles and houses of the diurnal chart (which is always set for the birth place) are very close to the natal chart. Note diurnal Mars rising conjunct natal Mars. Trump has had Mars hovering around his diurnal ascendant for some time, and it will continue to be placed close to the ascendant in diurnal charts for a while longer. This suggests Trump has had an intensely Mars focused time for a while, which is coming to a head with the Mars return near the solar return.

Very telling indeed!

Here is a mock horoscope (Chatgpt) reading for Donald J. Trump in the style and tone of William Lilly, using traditional 17th-century astrological language and concepts:

An Astrological Judgment for Mr. Donald John Trump, Born Under Gemini, the 14th Day of June, 1946
By William Lilly, Student in Astrology, Anno Domini 2025
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Of His Natal Figure and General Disposition

The Native is born with Sol (the Sun) in Gemini, rising with Mars in Leo near the Ascendant—verily, a man of bold speech, imperious temperament, and indomitable will. Mercury, his lord, doth show a mind quick, changeable, and desirous of dominion in discourse.

Jupiter in Libra, being well dignified, addeth grace with the people and favor with those in power—yet only so long as Justice be his companion.

But behold, Mars rising and the Tail of the Dragon (South Node) conjunct the Moon —here lieth pride, contentiousness, and the hazard of downfall by his own hand, should moderation not restrain.

"Let him beware the judgment of the People, and the wrath of hidden enemies."

A season of contention and upheaval is at hand. He may strive for command and bold action, yet the Stars warn: “What is gained by force may be lost in fury.”

Should he press too greatly without heed to wise counsel, he may find his cause imperiled by scandal, legal entanglements, or betrayal by his own circle.

Advice for the Native

Govern the tongue, for the stars incline toward conflict when speech is unguarded.

Shun ambition that overleaps its bounds; for Saturn delayeth reward, and bringeth ruin to the proud.

Seek alliance with Jupiterian men—judges, priests, and wise counselors—who may lend stability to his course.

Turn not away from the common voice, for the Moon (significator of the People) waneth in his chart. Let him strive to repair trust, lest rebellion fester.

Conclusion

Though the heavens shine not favorably upon his path at this time, there remain lights to guide him—should he choose temperance over tumult, and foresight over fury.

As the sage Ptolemy hath written, "The wise man governs his stars by reason; the fool is governed by them."

Ouranos

Check around July 11th when the diurnal AS is conjunct his South Node at the bendings, a time in the cycle when the adaptation (Moon) to the external reality is the least effective while his Sun falls in the transiting midpoint Mars/Saturn. To hit the wall.
Isn't it what Trump is going through right now with the transiting Nodal axis squaring his natal one?
Disconnected from reality. It is a time of 'transition'.

Thanks Ouranus - here is the diurnal chart for the date you have mentioned. It is a dramatic configuration, with Trump's natal nodal axis alignment on the meridian and the transiting nodal axis alignment on the diurnal horizon. This will be a day to watch as matters develop in the USA over the coming month.


Thanks for your input.

Ed

Hi there - another date that seems critical in the coming month is 18 June 2025. I have posted the chart below.




The diurnal chart (inner wheel) shows Pluto on the Porphyry 6th house cusp, Saturn and Neptune on the Porphyry 8th house cusp, and Uranus on the MC for the day. Diurnal Mars remains close to the diurnal ascendant. It has been hovering around Trump's diurnal ascendant for a considerable period of time. (Note that Mars remains close to the diurnal ascendant even in the 18th July chart above. This is because transiting Sun and Mars are moving at approximately the same daily speed through this period of time.)

My observations, using diurnal charts, is that when outer transiting planets hit the 6th and 8th cusps the individual faces a moment of great peril, often created by circumstances overtaking them. My sense is that Trump might face significant levels of resistance to his current course of action in deploying the military and National Guard to 'control' protest. Whatever happens on or around the 18 June may be highly significant in terms of Trump's ability to navigate the coming months.

Thanks. Ed

Further observations re. 18 June 2025 diurnal.

I have posted about the relevance of the current Aries ingress for regions in Eastern Europe and the on-going military conflicts there.

See: viewtopic.php?t=13009

James_m thoughtfully highlighted the same relevance for Tehran, Iran. Recent events, with Israel attacking Iran, have borne out the prescience of James' views.

There may be a strong link between the Cancer ingress for 2025 set for Tehran and Trump's diurnal chart for 18 June. The diurnal chart shows powerful configurations involving the MC, 8th and 6th house cusps (Porphyry). Interestingly, the Cancer ingress, which occurs a few days later, aligns the MC degree for Tehran with Saturn and Neptune culminating, and Trump's diurnal 8th house cusp which has Saturn conjunct Neptune closely aligned with it. Essentially Trump's 8th house cusp sits right atop the MC in Tehran at the 2025 Cancer ingress.

See chart below. The Cancer ingress is on the inner wheel, and Trump's diurnal chart for the 18th June is on the outer wheel:


It seems possible that Trump will constellate his diurnal configuration for the 18th June with events that arise in Iran a few days later. Timings are bit difficult to determine, but the northern summer solstice seems highly relevant for whatever Trump is planning at the moment.

Best wishes. Ed