Hi Taurus, good to see you joining in

I agree with you that Man City and Birmingham will win (using my method; haven't looked at them using CFJ's method). But I reckon Blackburn will probably win against Spurs. I didn't look at the Man Utd match since it's one of the many played at 3 o'clock.

What orb allowance are you using, and am I correct in assuming that we don't use tradditional rulership?

I think CFJ will have to answer here for what's used in the Llewellyn method. Personally I can't bring myself to use modern rulers, ouch! Perhaps CFJ will also comment on your Middlesbro analysis as this method is new to me.

Anyway, I'm prepared to put my money where my mouth is and have already placed my accumalator bet on the 4 teams (hey, what's a tenner).

Haha, good for you! Very brave to do an accumulator. Doesn't that mean if the first one's wrong, then the whole lot is lost? Last weekend I bet on 4 matches doing a mixture of singles, doubles, trebles etc. Unfortunately I got two right and two wrong so won a bit but lost more. If I'd bet the same amount on each match separately (which is what I usually do) I would have ended up better off. No more multi bets for me!

Good luck to you too.

Ficina

Hi Ficina

Yes, I wasn't sure on the Tottenham match either. The Middlesbrough chart looked clearer.

I had followed the Frawley method for quite some time with good/bad results and have hundreds of timed charts going back to 1998. In the back of my mind was the problem of assigning the ascendant for the favourite. Can we be really sure of who the favourite is?. Take a European team against an English team and you can have differences of opinion of who is the better.

A couple of years ago two friends and I got together and decided to place ?30 each on the big guns Man United, Chelsea, and Arsenal to win. We didn't bet when they played each other and we only bet on the premiership game at the weekend. We looked at the statistics and realised that some weeks they lost/drew, but over a period of weeks they won more of their games. So off we went to the bookies and placed ?90 on an accumalator. Some weeks it hurt but we were up on the average. However, it all came to an end when an article appeared in the sporting section of one of the tabloids. The writer wrote, that if one was to back the 3 big guns over the season to win then you would have made a profit. Mr William Hill and his mates must have read the same article because the bookies started to lower the odds on these 3 games and our bets ceased.

Should sports betting be applied the same way as financial astrologers apply their techniques?. They look at the particular stock charts/technical analysis, take the fundamentals into consideration and then look at the astrology. So, do we look at the statistics of the teams, then the fundamentals, for example; is there a new manager, will the side put a full team out, is there a new player, what are the injuries etc, then we apply the astrology.

Good luck


Taurus

Hi Taurus,

Interesting story about your accumulator on the big three. Pity it got scuppered by the tabloid press!

Yes, I use quite a few of John Frawley's aphorisms, especially those involving antiscia and also the Part of Success. I disagree with him over certain things though, for example L1 in 7th generally wins although he reckons the opposite. Regarding favourites, even he says it's best to use your common sense especially when England are involved as bookies nearly always make them the favourites. From what I have gathered he only looks at charts of cup finals when there isn't a home team of course as they're always played on neutral ground, so I guess that's why he gives the Asc to the favourite. I wonder it he'd apply the same approach to ordinary domestic games?

Regarding what you say about statistics etc you might find this site interesting. Click on the Football tab. The pages are a little difficult to read, although that could be my computer, lol!

http://www.dectech.org/

Cheers,
Ficina

Thanks for the link ficini. They gave Cardiff a win against QPR tonight but got it wrong. I gave ladbrokes another visit this afternoon and also bet on Cardiff to win, based on a tip from an armchair sports expert and on CleophisFlyJuice's approach.........where is she by the way?


17th Nov 06 19-45 Kick off
Cardiff 51-28N 3-10W

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Ascendant conjunct the SA. The Moon ruler of the 1st trine Neptune ruler of the 10th, trine the POF (wide) and square the SA. Venus, ruler of the 5th conjunct the Sun ruler of the 2nd/3rd. The 10th ruler Neptune trine the POF.

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Saturn the 7th ruler square Mars the 11th ruler. Mars square Uranus the 8th/9th ruler and trine the SA. The 4th ruler Mercury trine Uranus, and Uranus square the POF.

Am I missing something CleophisFlyJuice.

Good luck

Taurus

Good Evening.
I had a long day today nd just wanted to answer the last post. firrst of all I'm a he, not a she. Second, I read the chart for the Cardiff game and sis not like it enough to wager but I did expect it to be Under (under 2.5 goals/both teams).

Not sure what type of chart you have but I have NO asc conj SudAdv. And the 10th Neptune is OPPOSITIONING the POF.

I have Saturn, the 7th ruler CONJUNCTING POF!

I use :
House system Placidus
Zodiac Tropical
Coordinate system Geocenrtic

I also use the DayNight calculation for POF.

Please let me know how you have POF and SudddAdv.

Please e-mail me pic of the chart so I can take a look at it.
tbone(at)home.se
Thanks,
MR. CFJ

PS I'll give you guys my take on those UK games posted erlier.

Hi CleophisFlyJuice

Thanks for your reply at such a late hour of the day.
You are correct regarding the POF position. I am now using Astrowin and haven't got used to all the options. The POF option was set for day time and not for both which means that the Middlesbrough v Liverpool game will be incorrect as well. For the Cardiff chart I do get the sudden advancement at 17-55 Cancer using the software and have worked it out manually as well (asc+pof-saturn).

Good luck

Taurus

Hi Taurus

According to SolarFire, Sudden Advancement is 8,11 Taurus. They've calculated it using the PoF day, so I guess that's where the discrepancy lies.

Whether or not to reverse PoF by night seems to be an ongoing argument. I know John Frawley advises not because he has found non-reversed to work. In my experience I've found that either can work so I usually look at both for evening matches. As CFJ has pointed out, the reversed PoF was conjunct Saturn in this chart - a big plus for QPR, although it seems there were other conflicting testimonies to consider.

Best of luck to us all with our weekend predictions!

Ficina

Great help Ficina!

I am trying to get through all the games today brfore I go to work at 2pm.

I have a "no bet" for Birming, tough chart. Maybe end 0-0 or 0-1.
ManC, no bet, mostly Draw or maybe ManC.

All the 3pm UK games stink because of the first house interception Aries/Taurus. Only 3 games not intercepted and I really like Southend to win.

Man U should win ut the Moon is VERY afflicted by parts and the payoff not worth it.

The last game is MiddlLiverp.. AGAIN tough game. Middlesb has team/Game Merc trining the Score Uran. Which tells me that it will be tough for Midd to lose. But theier goalie, moon has bad SAdv. LIverpool has the t-square SatUran(Sun+Jup) but the teamJup and ScoreSun are trining SA that is in the 11th (LivGame). I would say Liverpool will be ahead but it will probably end in a Draw. Of course, that means no bet!!!

Talk more later from work.
Good luck!!