49 by Tom Error Notice I said earlier that the native had aremarkably balanced temperament by using Frawley's method. I made a blunder. He is definitely more sanguine by both methods used. Sorry about that. Tom Quote Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:40 am
50 by AlexMc Hello again, Tom, thanks for the temperament and manners help. You are right, the balanced temperament doesn?t aid me much in isolating his professional choices. Also I agree with those who see the Sun ? Moon square as important. How does a balanced, steady individual express that angular aspect? I'd say with verve, and they don?t shy away from a crisis ? tension/crisis are second nature?.?balanced, steady? = constructively I went back to his secondary progressions to see what I could find when Mercury emerged from under the Sun beams. I expect that, barring some other obstruction, this would be a time when his professional talents would become visible to a wider audience. What I found: Mercury began emerging from USB (making a phasis 14, 15 and 16 degrees from Sun) at age 20 through 24 years. Simultaneously, progressed Sun came to conjunction with prog Jupiter at 6Leo, both were soon joined by the prog Moon (without obstructions) and prog MC conjunct natal Jupiter. This probably describes a wonderful triumph for him (ongoing Jupiter effects due to its natal phasis condition, mutual reception with Sun with aspect, exalt ruler of MC all in 10th) and the beginning of a new period of his career where his professional talents had much greater visibility. At the same time, progressed Venus remains in partile trine to prog Mars, with reception (prog 16 & 15Virgo). The partile trine is in the birth chart. At birth, Venus? motion is slowing down to station RX, therefore has remained in partile trine to Mars since birth. Normally, we would expect Venus to separate from Mars. To travel together in close trine at similar speeds for such an extended time frame is a rare occurrence, adding increased importance and involvement of Mars (than I had previously noticed). LoA-Venus (him) is perpetually linked in harmonious aspect with L7-Mars (partners and/or opponents). Now I have to re-visit his Mars giving it more weight. Natally, his relevant planets are all in civilized signs with the exception of Mars and Jupiter which are in bestial (four footed) signs. Natal Mars is partile square Jupiter from 7th to 10th. He is a civilized man whose martial partners/opponents address forceful challenges to him professionally to which he responds with strategic power and force. His Mars-Jupiter square is second in closeness only to the Sun-Moon square, both squares are angular. Tension is second nature and somewhat consuming - he could be a tour de force. In a recent thread, there was a discussion about Morinus? technique for an unopposed planet to function as if it were in the opposite house. If Morinus is correct then his Mars functions as if in the 1st. At this point, I would add (to my previous post) the martial factor to his Mercury (contests) profession. Regards, AlexMc Quote Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:52 am
51 by AlexMc Tom, I did not see your error post changing balanced to sanguine until after I made my last post OK, so I will change my answer to your question from "with verve" to 'with verve and thoughtfulness'. Quote Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:03 am
52 by MarkF I also made some mistakes with the temperament. Now I still see the person as overall strongly sanguine, but with a streak of choleric from the Moon and the Sun. Did anyone notice that the antiscia of Mercury is with Saturn, and that the antiscia of Saturn is with Mercury? Antiscia are supposed to be like an opposition or square, so that?s bad for Mercury in particular. Saturn is also conjunct Bellatrix, the left shoulder of Orion, a first magnitude star of the nature of Mars-Mercury. With Saturn means ?Secluded and studious life, reserved, thoughtful, unfavorable for gain owing to lack of interest, poverty at end of life, often single but if married the partner may die young, no children. (Robson).? Saturn is closer by latitude to Capella, but not by longitude as Capella is very far north. It?s the goat that the charioteer is carrying. Again it?s of the nature of Mars-Mercury, though it seems to have more associations with Mercury. Taken together these stars add a bit of to the character of a scholar and thinker that we?ve all noted. The antiscia of Saturn with Mercury would seem to add more problems to the person?s career and intellect. It would make him wary of revealing his true feelings. Being sanguine by temperament this could come out as a person who?s very glib but lies a lot. Since Mercury rules his career, the person could be kind of deceptive to work for or around. That streak of choleric could mean a person who verbally lashes out in an insulting way. Mark F Quote Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:16 am