Okay I know we were chatting about this elsewhere but can't find it, I would be happy to merge with old topic.

I finally found a reference to last seen time, which I hadn't heard before, which was 2:45 at the restaurant in Bloomfield, MI.
30 July 1975

this gives a 13 Scorpio Rising. Gemini 8th house

Mars at 20 Tau 22 in early 7th.

none of the planets that should be menacing seem to be menacing as yet, but are aproaching menacing angles, which leads me to believe he didnt' die for sometime after this alleged last sighting? Sorry if I"m bringing up old stuff, that has already been gone over, but couldn't find the other thread...

Interesting to me anyway. Granny

I don't know what the orbs are for fixed stars, something small I think, like one degree, but I always get nervous when any planet is near Caput Algol. Mars is approaching it, which would certainly spell an impending violent death, yes? Perhaps he was held captive and then killed as that aspect perfected...?

Just a thought...

that has always been my thought, but that would have been days! so makes you wonder. I suppose that is possible. Might even have not been original intent of disappearance, may have been for legitimate discussions that went sour? but the last seen chart just doesn't look sinister to me?

Granny