This is not at all my area of expertise. But a few weeks ago I was gripped by the look of a horse ( she looked up for winning - I can't explain it, she just did) on TV just before a race and had to watch to see if it would win. It did. I have finally got round to checking out the horse's chart from the site you referenced and thought others might be interested.

Details are: Arm Candy Newmarket 15.45 28 Oct 2006
She had transiting jupiter trine transiting north node which was conjunct her natal sun that day, and a transiting mars/sun/venus conjunction trine her mars.

I also took a peek at a chart for a race tomorrow (2 dec) which looked interesting. Sandown 3.10. Taurus rises, Capricorn is on MC-but both venus and capricorn are a bit debilitated in the chart. Mars however is strong on the decendent, conjunct an equally strong jupiter.
So I selected some names ( Rosecliffe, Self respect, and maybe Miss Academy) that seemed to fit the venus saturn theme and checked out their charts ( BTW Despite being an astrological believer I'm still amazed how the charts fit the names )

Then some that might fit the mars/jupiter theme ( this was harder) - Verasi, Fenix and Guru - who it turned out all ran this race last year ( Verasi won).

Now I want to see which do better. I probably won't place any bets - lack of any experience in this area precludes such a risk, but I will post the result and my thoughts on it.

Hi Amelia,

Those were great transits for Arm Candy

Re tomorrow's race, Mars certainly stands out on the Desc and you've picked out some interesting names. I'd probably go for Guru simply because Tony McCoy is on board, lol!

I won't be around tomorrow to watch the race on TV, but do let us know how it turns out.

Good luck!
Ficina

Well clearly I am better at picking horses just by looking at them than via astrological analysis. None of the above mentioned horses were even placed. To be fair though the professsional tipsters also tipped many of them too so I don't feel a complete failure. I wasn't surprised by the lack of success of the first batch of venus/saturn types - as I mentioned both planets were relatively debilitated. The Mars/Jupiter selection I really expected more from.... Ah well I'll stick to what I know in future.

The winner, incidentally, was Overstrand (9 may 1999)- a horse that won the same race in 2003. Astrological signification of this name I struggle with?

I can't see Overstrand in the chart either, Amelia. Mars did cross over the Desc during the race but that's pushing things a bit I think!

Don't feel bad that the symbolism didn't fit for the other horses you picked out. It takes a lot of patience and a lot of race charts before something really stands out and actually works. With five planets in Sagittarius next weekend I'm hoping for something positive of a Saggy nature to manifest. We'll see....

As noted above, we now have 5 planets in Sagittarius.

2.10 at Wolverhampton result:

1st Very Wise 9/4F
2nd Atlantic Quest 7/1

A straight forecast would have netted the equivalent of 16/1.

And no, I didn't put my money on

Hopefully there will be more tomorrow....

Hi Ficina
Only caught one race yesterday- 15.45 Cheltenham. Took your advice went for the Sag theme- Chose Flight Leader 16-1 as descriptive of Mars Jupiter Mercury in early Sag, and got it right. Sadly no money involved, but it was nice to do better than last time anyway.

I can?t forgive the appearance of this thread, as together with a confluence of other events it seems to have got me into astrological betting on horse racing in a big way. Very time consuming and potentially ruinous?..

I started with the ?naming? system but generally didn?t do well with this and my experience with Arm Candy led me back to using the horses? charts. I have now been operating my system for 6 Saturdays plus Cheltenham. I started putting my money where my mouth was and betting on the ?Scoop6? on the 5th and 6th Saturdays and also put a small amount into a competition for Cheltenham.

I pull up the race chart and compare all the confirmed horses? natal and progressed charts with it. I ignore the horses? angles as I don?t have these and work on the basis of planets to planets and horses? planets to the race?s angles. I am obviously still learning and have collected a lot of data which I need to reanalyse on the basis of the results. However it isn?t looking bad. Each week I get about between 2 and 3 winners and 2 and 3 other placings out of six races. I have so far not got 6 placings (and obviously it is early days to be getting 6 winners ) so no money yet as I am only doing the Scoop 6 which requires a full house, of at least placings, to payout; but I reckon on this level of stats I could break even over the long term by occasionally getting the placings right and maybe one day could get all six winners. We?ll see. I would obviously have won some money if I had bet on individual races but the appeal of the big jackpot is just too much for me to ignore.

Cheltenham was a disaster though. I seem to work better when I am not familiar with the horses. Otherwise I have favourites of my own where I look for good stuff and ignore bad. With unknown horses it is easier to be objective and just use the astrology. What impressed me most is that, it is sometimes possible to totally discount the bookies favourite on the basis of the charts and to pick outsiders. I had one race where I got the top three as my possibles and none of them were listed as the bookies choices.

So as I said early days yet and I probably won?t be doing this any more this season, as it takes up most of my Saturdays at the moment which isn?t wise when the sun shines. So more next winter I expect.

Hi Amelia,

Fascinating stuff and congratulations on all your hard work and successes. Sorry to have got you hooked, LOL, but hope you're finding it fun

I too have experienced disastrous Cheltenhams in the past, so decided to give it a miss this year. Also I've been very busy with work - the type that guarantees an income, as opposed to sports betting which doesn't!

I agree with you regarding discounting the bookies' favourites. I've found it best to avoid reading the form too since that can be distracting. It's when astrology works against the form that things become interesting - and profitable, hopefully

Just out of interest, when you're comparing charts of horses and races, do you look at all planets and all aspects?

Cheers,
Ficina