?it does not matter if their religious beliefs are untrue or true. Tolerance allows all people freedom to think their own thoughts, express their thoughts and live those thoughts as they choose. Others are equally free to agree or disagree. All have freedom to exist.

My objection is to any astrology that seeks to justify the elimination of an entire people?s very existence simply because its author doesn't like those people?s thoughts, religious beliefs, customs, culture, habits and/or way of life.

Although I find the Iranian plans of Uranium enrichment highly disturbing, I am equally disturbed by the recent shaking of US swords and George Bush Jr. ordering a second US Aircraft Carrier to the Gulf-region, re. news of Feb 20. 2007. I cannot spot the astrological build-up in this region at present and Mercury retrograde in Pisces (water) makes me want to call his bluff. Or do we witness another erronous (?) decision by the Bush administration with the potential of plunging the President into new troubles?

Andrew J.Bevan

"In the United States there is isolation, the persecution of such minorities as the Negro race and an ignorant and arrogant nationalism, voiced by some Senators and Representatives with their racial hatreds, their separate attitudes and their unsound political methods".

?The Jews are the reincarnation of spiritual failures or residues from another planet... The Jew represents materialism, cruelty and a spiritual conservatism, under the domination of the separative, selfish mind?? From 1949: ? Today the law of racial karma is working and the Jews are paying the price [for evil done in past lives], factually and symbolically ...? ?Release from the present situation will come when the Jew forgets that he is a Jew.... The Jewish problem will be solved by intermarriage; that of the Negro will not. This will mean concession and compromise on the part of the orthodox Jews -- not the concession of expediency but the concession of conviction.? (Esoteric Healing, p. 267.)

Andrew wrote:

"In the United States there is isolation, the persecution of such minorities as the Negro race and an ignorant and arrogant nationalism, voiced by some Senators and Representatives with their racial hatreds, their separate attitudes and their unsound political methods".

Recent scientific evidence demonstrates that the idea of race is a biological myth, as outdated as the widely held medieval belief that the sun revolved around the earth. Obscurantists will insist otherwise; good for them. Anthropologists, biologists and geneticists have increasingly found that, biologically speaking, there is no such thing as "race." Modern science is decoding the genetic puzzle of DNA and human variation - and finding that skin color really is only skin deep.

I don't see what this has to do with the subject. One can recognize racial hatred in others without acknowledging a racial difference (for that matter more recent studies make it more doubtful, such as this one http://daily.stanford.edu/article/2005/ ... naMaterial). On the other hand if you call yourself an astrologer then by definition you are saying that a person is determined by others factors than genes or upbringing.

Allice Bailey did not advocate "science" in the modern (empirical) sense of the term. She made the same kind of inflated, unsubstantive absolutist statements that every other claimant to "privileged insight" (including astrology and astrologers) has ever made: this is so because I say it is so; this is science because I say it is science.

As you said yourself there is no claim to science. However it can be approached and tested in a scientific manner. (I have also done statistical research on the astrology.) Empirical science is limited to what can be perceived with the senses, but there is no perceptible influence that can explain astrology for example so it is just ignored or ridiculed.

The set of assumptions that enthusiasts talk among themselves about, but which constitute a belief system rather than a form of empirical knowledge..

Well it seems to me you reject it out of prejudice rather than research. The world view of modern can equally be described as a gigantic myth if one accepts that not all of reality can be perceived by human senses (which scientists themselves are now saying by claiming 95% of the universe is dark matter). Traditional astrology which you seem to believe in makes to my mind more incredible claims than what I have read in Bailey's books.

I don't see what this has to do with the subject.

On the other hand if you call yourself an astrologer then by definition you are saying that a person is determined by others factors than genes or upbringing.

As you said yourself there is no claim to science. However it can be approached and tested in a scientific manner. (I have also done statistical research on the astrology.) Empirical science is limited to what can be perceived with the senses, but there is no perceptible influence that can explain astrology for example so it is just ignored or ridiculed.

The world view of modern can equally be described as a gigantic myth if one accepts that not all of reality can be perceived by human senses (which scientists themselves are now saying by claiming 95% of the universe is dark matter). Traditional astrology which you seem to believe in makes to my mind more incredible claims than what I have read in Bailey's books.

I don't see what this has to do with the subject.

Although I find the Iranian plans of Uranium enrichment highly disturbing, I am equally disturbed by the recent shaking of US swords and George Bush Jr. ordering a second US Aircraft Carrier to the Gulf-region, re. news of Feb 20. 2007. I cannot spot the astrological build-up in this region at present and Mercury retrograde in Pisces (water) makes me want to call his bluff. Or do we witness another erronous (?) decision by the Bush administration with the potential of plunging the President into new troubles?

I don't see what this has to do with the subject.

What this has to do with the subject is this: There is no Negro race or Caucasian race or Asian race or any other race other than the human race. All white, black, yellow, brown or red varieties thereof are closely related interbreeding subspecies, all descended from a common mother that lived somewhere in Central Africa some 100,000 years ago.

Bailey claimed to serve as the amanuensis for a so-called Master of Wisdom, who explicitly refers to Negroes and Jews as belonging to a "race."

On the other hand if you call yourself an astrologer then by definition you are saying that a person is determined by others factors than genes or upbringing.

Correlations between configurations do not necessarily indicate a causative relationship, nor do they necessarily posit a deterministic influence. They might suggest the presence of synchronistic phenomena, but they do not "cause" or "determine" anything.

To make an assertion is not to establish a fact. To borrow from Heinz Pagels:
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I have repeatedly my web page which you have not bothered to refute. So I conclude that you either accept the results or you are so hopelessly biased that you don't even bother. I suspect the latter, so I see no point in describing my results and methods.

The world view of modern can equally be described as a gigantic myth if one accepts that not all of reality can be perceived by human senses (which scientists themselves are now saying by claiming 95% of the universe is dark matter). Traditional astrology which you seem to believe in makes to my mind more incredible claims than what I have read in Bailey's books.

Anything can be described as anything provided one has the wish to do so. Consistency is not necessarily synonymous with accuracy and truth, but the various "traditional astrologies" are at least internally consistent and symbolically developed. The same cannot be said for the torrential scribblings of Mrs. Alice A. Bailey.

I think on the contrary those writings are a lot more "internally consistent" than the range of opinions by traditional astrologers. You mentioned that there are set some set of assumptions, and I showed that science also has them (all reality can be perceived).

I have repeatedly my web page which you have not bothered to refute. So I conclude that you either accept the results or you are so hopelessly biased that you don't even bother. I suspect the latter, so I see no point in describing my results and methods.

The Solar Age Point at 9CN21 in April will cast a sextile through signs of long ascension to his natal Mars in Virgo. This may mobilize to war but with danger and much domestic conflict, controversy or trouble. The sextile through signs of long ascension leads to foolhardy action and the president will also be subject to or the target of scrutiny due to the nature of planets and signs involved, i.e. the Solar Age Point (SAP) in CN in aspect to Mars in VI.