Ficina,

Part of Success: Asc plus Jupiter minus PoF

Part of Victory: Asc plus Jupiter minus Part of Spirit

From your practice which of this part is more important?

I've found them both to work, Goca. I don't have many examples because, not surprisingly, they don't occur very often.

Yes, I understand! Thanks.

Ficina
Thank you.
I tested the Parts you gave me and was fairly impressed by them. They don`t always work but are sometimes very helpful, and sometimes only as a support to the main testimonies.

Quote: `I think it`s impossible for any method to work 100% of the time. If it did we`d be millionaires.`
True. That was my first local derby chart so it`d be too early for me to decide that favourites get the AC for derbies. It seems even Ficina hasn`t found any specific rule for local derbies.
Regarding yesterday`s match, Mercury already separated from hte POF. In my limited experience, only applying aspects to Parts seem to count. Do you think the separating ones are also relevant?
Going back to the Champions League Final chart, yes it was indeed 2005 when liverpool won the Cup(felt like last year).

Goca
Yikkes! promised us his reading of the chart of the Final. What is your take on this chart? I`m not sure what Milan`s colour is, but neither Jupiter nor Mercury is associated with the colour red(Liverpool)

Gem, my reading of final chart you can find of page 3 of this post from Thu May 03, 2007 7:31 am . Regarding colours visit these links and all will be clear to you.


http://koti.mbnet.fi/neptunia/oja1.htm
http://koti.mbnet.fi/neptunia/quotes/clzodiac.htm

I beg your pardon Goca, how silly of me You gave us a very good reading.
You have a very interesting and informative site. I`ll read the links too.

Thanks Gem, I am glad that my site help you get info which you need.

Regarding yesterday`s match, Mercury already separated from hte POF. In my limited experience, only applying aspects to Parts seem to count. Do you think the separating ones are also relevant?

I've found two separation examples, one as only a supporting testimony to angular sig, the other as sole testimony. There had to be something for Arsenal, given that Moon in 4th was for Chelsea, and I guess that was it. The result was a draw and I suppose I almost got there by predicting it could go either way

Goca, nice site! Your example ManU v Arsenal was interesting. I'd looked at this game too and using my method (Asc for home team) it was a case of Moon in 7th overruling the home team's angular sig. Different methods, same result By the way, the match was on 17 Sept.

Thanks Ficina, especially for right date, yes, it was 17. not 19. Sep.! My faulth! I will correct it!

hi Ficina and Goca
I slightly edited my first post this morning.
As for the match on Wednesday between United and Chelsea, I`d go for a draw. Chelsea(Mars) has past the part of Success(that`s not strong enough is it?). Venus is applying to oppose the Part of Victory, but that`s it. Nothing to indicate a win for either side. And the Moon is opposing a malefic(an indication for a draw, found in Goca`s site).

Looks as if I have been missing out on a rather exciting discussion here. So then my first opinions come rather after hand. I would have held Liverpool as a favourite in the semi's against Chelsea of the simple reason that the Moon was in Scorpio.

Hi Andrew
Lovely to see a new face here.
Why the Moon being in Scorpio was the determinant factor in your judgement?