arrival of Jupiter in the places (Carmen Astrologicum) 1 by Pat Well, Dorotheus again...(p226, Pingree, 1976) I can't understand very well:"If Jupiter is in the ascendant while Saturn is in the West, then he will destroy his brothers who were born before him and will harm his father" till now, OK, but "and he will see what he loves in his ennemies together with praise and commendation..." What does it mean? thanks everybody Patricia Quote Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:37 am