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The question is....
Do my colleuges like me

10.18pm
25/9/07
Luton, Great Britain

I think the answer is no....
Mars on the ascendant signifies me being vocally agressive (or percieved to be)
My ruler is in the 5th Libra, which could suggest that im trying to be cordial, diplomatic & want to make friends, but perehaps being seen as a show off or childish.

Their ruler (jupiter) in its own sign could mean they arent really botherd about me...but then pluto is on the 7th, seething anger?

The moons next aspect is a square to mars in the 1st.....possible argument caused by me?

I notice planteds are conjunct all the angles.

Coudl someone help me out pls!
Last edited by montpellier on Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:20 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Do My Colleagues Like Me?

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Montpelier,

The ourter planets or invisibles are not considered in Horary so Pluto is not in the picture.Always use Regiomontans House system with Horary.

With your Significator, Mercury in 5th of children, fun, merriment and pleasure this looks good to me.Mercury is the planet of mischief and communication.

The Moon always indicates what we are thinking about - and is placed on Cusp of 11th - Significator of the 11th is the benevolent Jupiter in Rulership in 6th House of service and work.

Looking at your 11th House as friends, associates - this is considered a most fortunate house and the House of the Good Daemon.Wishes rule this house.

I believe your colleagues like you but you may be having to much fun and not working as hard as as they are?Maybe proving to be a distraction to them?

Julie K

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Hi Julie,

Thanks so much for the interpretaion.
.............I was wondering if the michevious fun, could relate to them poking fun out of me (behind my back) & thats why im a distraction?

Thanks

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Always use Regiomontans House system with Horary.
Why? :shock: There is absolutely no requirement to use Regiomontanus!

Regio was decided upon here at the forum for ease of discussion: getting everyone together on the same page, so to speak. I have long felt that that gets translated into Horary = Regiomontanus and can continue as common usage without investigation into something that may work better for the individual. Then it?s easy to say that everyone uses it because it works so well, when in fact it possibly is just due to everyone sticking with common usage. Experiment.

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Kirk,

From Olivia Barclay's book, Horary Astrology Rediscovered, Chapter 16, Page 157.

[ The best result are obtained in Horary by using Regiomontanus house division. ]

There is a full explanation if you would like me to type it all for you. NP if you do.

This is the way I was taught. We used Olivia's book.

Julie K

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Kirk,

Olivia goes on to say:

[His method was generally used. But there was another system, ascribed by some to Magini, and popularized with Tables by a Perugian monk and mathematician, Placido Titi (Born 1590). It was a merely unfortunate accident that the nineteenth century Raphaels Ephemerides published these Placidean Tables making them easily available.

In practise, the cusps are most important in Horary, for instance, in timing, a Planet can be symbolically directed to a cusp. The Regiomontanus method gives best results and therefore was used by most successful astrologers.]

Kirk, this is from Olivia herself as to why she feels Regiomontanus is the correct house system to use for Horary. But you may wish to choose your own 'pet' system.

Julie K

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Julie K wrote:Montpellier,

Only you would know if you are clowning around, playing at being the jester and distracting your co-workers. :shock: :???:

Julie K
Sorry Julie,

Let me clarify, the reason I asked the question:
.............I was wondering if the michevious fun, could relate to them poking fun out of me (behind my back) & thats why im a distraction?
is because I'm *not* acting like a court jester at all. I keep myself to myself, therefore I asked if the 5th house influence you mentioned (merriment fun ect) could be somthing which is directed at me as in laughed at/riduculed behind my back (somthing I would have no awarness of)...is that a posiblity or am I off the mark

Thanks

(Loved your smilies BTW)

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Julie quotes Olivia Barclay:
In practise, the cusps are most important in Horary, for instance, in timing, a Planet can be symbolically directed to a cusp. The Regiomontanus method gives best results and therefore was used by most successful astrologers.
Ok, so cusps are ?most important in Horary?. Where?s the proof that Regiomontanus cusps are better than others? (Remember, I'm replying to your strong statement "Always use Regiomontans House system with Horary".) Madam Barclay says that Regio cusps are better. We should just agree and be quiet? Who are those ?most successful astrologers?? Did they have access to many other division systems in order to experiment? Her statement proves nothing. It just says ?do this?. In other words: Good God! ? Question what you read!