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The correct ascendant for the Chelsea-WestHam match is 9 Pisces.
That puts Moon & Saturn on the cusp of the 7th

If the Asc is either the home team or the favourite, there should not be much doubt here. The home teams are naturally in advantage. Measuring up which definitions should apply is interesting.

Moon and Saturn are both peregrine on the desc and the lord therof, Mercury, is detriment. The return for a home victory in Chelsea-West Ham is 1,3:1, while a draw in Aston Villa - Arsenal gives 3,25:1.

And I'd be grateful if you could explain a bit further about the relation between faves and Moon/POF aspects, please?

Using Moon square PoF as an example, this is what I found. It's not enough on its own to turn over an odds-on fave playing at home. Away team odds-on fave produces a draw. Home team fave (not odds-on) also a draw. Away team fave (not odds-on) - fave loses.

This is not conclusive by any means and obviously other chart factors (if any) will have an influence. It was because of these other factors that I gave up tracking the various testimonies. Too many variables!

Even looking at the Chelsea match, I could make a case for all possible outcomes.

Chelsea win - Jupiter in 10th overrules everything else and is enough for odds-on fave home team to win.

West Ham win - kudos to JF (and maybe effect of Pluto on Jupiter).

Draw - Jupiter in 10th and Moon square PoF cancel each other out.

I'm wondering how the Mars teams (whoever they are) in the 3pm games will do today. Mars is still very weak, but perhaps the Moon's sextile will make a difference?

The Moon applies to Mars, who receives her in her sign. Mars retrogrades to meet her dispositor. Mars is in mutual reception with Jupiter by term. It is not all negative. But Moon and Mars are natural enemies, and the sextile is cast through signs of long ascension, below the horizon.

By the way, 7 yellow cards in the Chelsea-West Ham game! A lot of trouble with the Moon joined to Saturn, with the square to the Sun. South node in the same sign as Moon and Saturn.

Ficina
Thank you for taking the time to explain about the Moon/POF. What you found is valuable and can be used especially in a chart where testimonies are sparse. It's true that there are many variables but that can be said about others too including JF's antiscia.

Even looking at the Chelsea match, I could make a case for all possible outcomes.

That's true too Well done Andrew

I'm wondering how the Mars teams (whoever they are) in the 3pm games will do today

I'm nearly giving up making sense of 3pm matches. Figuring out who gets the AC is too hard a hurdle to overcome in the first place.

Yes, well done Andrew. Very brave to bet odds-on. I don't understand decimal odds very well but Corals had Chelsea at 2/7. Not a great return, but still a profit

I'm nearly giving up making sense of 3pm matches. Figuring out who gets the AC is too hard a hurdle to overcome in the first place.

I agree. Three of those five games ended in a draw, which is unusual, so I guess the Moon aspect helped the weak Mars.

Interesting game tomorrow. Spurs v Birmingham, 4pm. Spurs are odds-on faves but I can't see them winning. What do you think?

Arsenal are leading 2-1 at the end of the first half...

I can't see them winning.

There are strongish testimonies for Birmingham aren't they, though I hate the thought of Spurs being beaten.

Well, I'm just slightly out of pocket after the Chelsea win but Arsenal stealing all the points from Villa (looking for a draw) but I agree with Gem and will go with Birmingham winning away against Spurs tomorrow.

The odds there are 7,75:1 if Birmingham get it right. I don't now why the odds are stacked so heavily against Birmingham. Both teams are about even at the lower end of the table.

I will also go for Liverpool beating Bolton at odds 1,3:1 with the Moon at 22VI25 in trine to the Asc at 21TA49 where she has exaltation.

If anyone feels they can comment why Arsenal defeated Villa today that would be interesting. It was a tight game. Moon, lady of the 1st, moved to oppose Uranus?

Question: The Asc. is for the home team or favourites. The Des. is for the away team. If the visiting team are favourites they can win from both Asc. or Des.? This is confusing. Is the Moon the match itself, showing what happens?

Yes the chart looks good for Birmingham as Ficina said. The Liverpool match appears to be a safe bet, though not a great return as the Chelsea one.

Now we have to learn something from the Arsenal match. Teams like ManU and Arsenal seem capable of winning even without strong testimonies whereas obviously Villa weren't. Interestingly the distance between the Moon and Uranus was about 4 degs and there were 4 goals. I haven't particulary observed the Moon-Uranus aspects favouring either side in the past but it may be something to keep observation.

The Des. is for the away team. If the visiting team are favourites they can win from both Asc. or Des.?

I'm not sure what you mean.

Is the Moon the match itself, showing what happens?

JF says it shows the flow of events.

I forgot to write about Spurs.
Spurs have been unbeaten since they had a new manager. They've also been doing well in the UEFA Cup, top of the table in their group. Last week they were 2-0 down in the first half and came back to beat a Danish team 3-2. They're always entertaining to watch and I hope they'll continue to do well even though I put a pound on Birmingham's win!

Re the Moon:

JF says it shows the flow of events.

You give JF too much credit, Gem! Or at least I am sure he would quote Olivia Barclay on the same. (No offence meant JF!)

The Des. is for the away team. If the visiting team are favourites they can win from both Asc. or Des.?

What I mean is that is Arsenal are playing home we say they are shown by the Asc.; or if they are playing away and the 7th is stronger than the 1st then we say they are shown by the 7th; or if Arsenal are playing away and the 1st is stronger than the 7th then we say that Arsenal are represented by the 1st because they are the favourites?

There must be a better way to get at this problem!

Gem says:
...even though I put a pound on Birmingham's win!

Put ?3 on Liverpool (1,3:1) and ?1 on Birmingham (7,75:1). This way a Liverpool win almost covers a B'ham loss. If both matches come right you walk home with ?11.65

Although I said I couldn't see Spurs winning, I can't see Birmingham winning either, so I'm going for a draw. Birmingham will be trying to impress their new manager but, as Gem said, Spurs seem to be coming back into form.

Liverpool and Man Utd (Monday) will win. Both odds-on at home, so no surprises there.

The more I see of Arsenal, the more I think they're going to win everything this season. Even though Villa had home advantage, there were no testimonies to show they could beat the odds-on fave. Also, as I said earlier, it would seem the 4th house planets helped Arsenal on this occasion.