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This is said in all respect but I think you are too close to the native to accurately read them without putting your own experiential bias into the reading. This happens a lot when Astrologers read for people they are close to (or even themselves). Their views are biased by what they observe with the person and match their views and find astrological signification of these things rather than letting the chart speak for itself. I see that you are quite proud of this girl (and rightly so being family its great to see) however I also see that because of this you are searching out combinations and aspects to make her as special as she is to you (which is what all family should feel but Astrologically its detrimental to the understanding of the person astrologically) than maybe her Astrology states. Again, I say this with the most respect I possibly can, I just wanted to bring this up because reading for family/friends/yourself without that degree of separation can sevrely impact your interpretation skills and make Astrologers see things that arent really there.

As with regard to the topic, any Star of David (rightly created with the 7 Planets only) would be highly significant in any chart because all of the Planets form a trine aspect between themselves which would cause a great harmony or concord between the Planets. Any Native possessing a true star of david in their chart would be something truly to marvel at. I dont know if it is even possible in a thousand years to have all the traditional planets to be lined up in this position but it would be certainly something to see!
Aaron Brody
www.antiquus-astrology.com
Antiquus Astrologia

Re: Star of David in Natal Chart Need Comparisons Feedback

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reginae wrote:
What are all of your thoughts, any comparisons that you have would be of great help in the research on this Star of David Configuration!

Regina
I also have a loose double-trine structure, but in Fire/Air.
The primary trine is as follows;

Mar 04 Ari 55
Sat 07 Sag 31
Ura 06 Leo 29

These planets then form oppositions as follows;

Mar opp. (Jup 00 Lib 17 and Asc 07 Lib 47)
Sat opp. (Moo 00 Gem 45)
Ura opp. (Chi 08 Aqu 31)

All these points then form a series of trines and sextiles around the circle with the set of 3 internal oppositions. Some of the trines/sextiles are getting on the wide side, but I can feel them all to greater/lesses degrees.

Although for ease of reference I usually refer to this as a double-trine configuration, I have always felt it to be a series of interlocked oppositions all constantly tugging away at and between each other - a bit like one of those 3-team tag wrestling matches that you see on TV.

In no way does this feel nice or in any way fluffy - apart from the Moon Jupiter trine maybe :)

Observations rather than Biased

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astro-teacher wrote:
This is said in all respect but I think you are too close to the native to accurately read them without putting your own experiential bias into the reading.
This happens a lot when Astrologers read for people they are close to (or even themselves). Their views are biased by what they observe with the person and match their views and find astrological signification of these things rather than letting the chart speak for itself.


Thank you so much for your comments. I have waited 13 years to even consider this could be a possibility, which is why I have put it to the forum now. I am an Aunt to 14 mostly nieces and a great-aunt to this individual with the possible Star of David, I have spent much time with them all in their development, watched them from infancy to their 30's, now this great-niece was very different from the others. I had that feeling when I found out my niece (unmarried at the time) was pregnant with her, it was the oddest feeling a true jump and feeling in the heart center of great happiness. Only now that I look back does the significance of that feeling hit home. My sister, was furious she was pregnant and unmarried, I was not, I was overjoyed that this child would be special, not knowing or even looking at a chart at the time.

As I have watched and observed, this child is blessed. I am not overly religious as Kirk in his comments might think. But this is the only way I can express in terms of the English Language the life of this individual.

Can the Arabic points be that integral in the chart? I have seen other Arabic Points, reveal truths in other clients charts that I have suspected but unusure of,but they did verify my suspicions of a particular trait.

This is why I am asking for feedback. I, in many areas, have observed for years, before I make a confirmation of a truth. Now, after much consideration and observation, am considering this a real possibility. Time will tell, but signs and actual events tells me this is a very real case history of a Star of David.

As mentioned earlier, she raises everyone's vibrations and makes them feel a wonderful energy, to people who are very low in a heavy vibration, she raises them! Everything flows easily and effortlessly, as well as even sports, she cannot be aggressive. This of course can be explaned by Zero Fire in her chart, as well as Mars in its Fall in Cancer. But myself and her parents, would like to see her have that competitive spirit in sports, its just NOT there!!! She is still happy and plays for the sake of she just purely enjoys it.

Those a just a few insignificant events and observations, there are many more.

So I will continue pondering and watching this individual, she really is a very, very different breed. If you know of any other similar configuration, please let me know as well as any one else out there that may know of a close Star of David, so that I can do some research and comparisons.

Thank you again so very much for your wise and kind words. I agree, it is very difficult to read for those close to you. And I do love her very much and am very proud of her. But I also have observed from a distance and wanted to put this out there for a case history.

Thanks again,
Regina

Re: Star of David in Natal Chart Need Comparisons Feedback

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Kreylor Macrami wrote:
reginae wrote:
I also have a loose double-trine structure, but in Fire/Air.
The primary trine is as follows;
Mar 04 Ari 55
Sat 07 Sag 31
Ura 06 Leo 29

These planets then form oppositions as follows;

Mar opp. (Jup 00 Lib 17 and Asc 07 Lib 47)
Sat opp. (Moo 00 Gem 45)
Ura opp. (Chi 08 Aqu 31)
All these points then form a series of trines and sextiles around the circle with the set of 3 internal oppositions. Some of the trines/sextiles are getting on the wide side, but I can feel them all to greater/lesses degrees.
Kraylor,

Really appreciate your response, May I get your birth info? I'd like to look at your chart and ask you some questions. Your insight is greatly appreciated. I was surprised to hear that it did not feel warm nor good!.

Really appreciate your info if you could provide that.
Thanks so much,
Regina

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I am not overly religious as Kirk in his comments might think.
What to do with this? Would Kirk think any differently out of his comments? Shall we ask him? Not yet, I would recommend first clearly discerning when he is in his comments and when he is out of them. I?ve heard he can be quite surly when caught at the wrong moment.

No, Regina, I wouldn?t say overly religious. Just over-the-top too involved with the chart and chart native to see clearly. There ... I finally came out and said it.

Productive feedback

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No, Regina, I wouldn?t say overly religious. Just over-the-top too involved with the chart and chart native to see clearly. There ... I finally came out and said it.
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Kirk,

The above comment is productive. As to your other comments, I see no benefit to feed into someones anger or re-living a sunday school trauma. Some healing work there would be helpful for you, I wonder how many times that has reared its head in your life and caused you to lash out in anger. I said angst, rather than anger because I did not want to respond in kind. your comments were just pure anger and rage as it brought up bad memories. That probably happens everytime those buttons or memories are activated, or it could be the current Pluto Mars opposition that has brought your anger up. Whatever it is, it only makes you feel better to get it out on whoever is in your path. I do not wish that dumped on me!

Now I can understand and expected the responses that point out that I am too close to the individual to be objective. It is hard for someone to believe otherwise. However, as I said I have watched and observed for a very long time I am just as close to all of my other nieces and great nieces. This one is special. Which is why I put it out there for a better insight, to learn from all the experience of the forum.

Scientists are re-learning and changing long held belief about how our Solar System , and Universe is put together, they are developing new theories rapidly as we discover more planets revolving around their own suns, which do not match how our theories of how planets are formed and where they are formed. Why do we expect Astrology to stay stagnant, and not move into new areas of discoveries? I agree most of it works beautifully. But there are holes in it, events that do not correspond to what the configuration is showing us. Most times they do correspond, but there are missing areas, missing information that we are not yet aware of. This forum is to share those unusual cases where it does not seem to make sense, where the physical manifestations are different from what we would believe it to be by looking at the chart configurations. By sharing our experiences we might all discover a new view, a new perspective, a new point in the chart, what is there that we are not seeing clearly?

Do we all read with an open mind that my comments and feedback may have some merit or discounted as you are too close. Could there be a faint possibility that something is there that we are not seeing? That points do have much insight to bring in and fill in missing holes? I do not know for sure, but an exercise in expanding possibilities of long held beliefs can be a good exercise to start thinking a bit out of the box. Generally speaking most of the events do fall into the guidelines of the long held beliefs of what the energies of the planets manifest.

So my intent and purpose was to get different points of views regarding the possibility of the Star of David being very active with the point of fortune involved in it, as the events and manifestations seem to point to.

So I do not see why you just did not say at the onset, your last comment, I rather expected everyone to believe that in the beginning, but was dissapointed that no-one could even remotely consider the possibility as a real option that perhaps there was a Star of David there, which is fine.

I will keep observing and as time goes by, I am sure the truth will reveal itself in about another 20 - 25 years. Then I will let you know for sure!

Thanks for your last honest comments.
Regina

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... I see no benefit to feed into someones anger or re-living a sunday school trauma. Some healing work there would be helpful for you, I wonder how many times that has reared its head in your life and caused you to lash out in anger.
It?s been hell, I tell you! :-cry There must be a kindly Chiron-influenced healer for me out there who has experience with Sunday school trauma :? ...

... :lol:


Regina,

The best part of it all, better than any astrological insights and explanations, is that you have someone who is so special to you.

Great Sense of Humor

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Hey Kirk,

At least its good to know you have a great sense of humor to offset that temper of yours, when your buttons get pushed! Seriously, just get rid of that memory that plagues you, you sound like your tired of it interfering in your life, just let it go, it's old over and its a New Year for new beginnings! Take a deep breath in, and at the exhale just blow it out!!!

Thank you for the kind words, and its true, I am very lucky, as I have many loved ones, of course not all feel the same way back, but enough to make me very rich in lovely memories! I guess thats what they meant when they taught to build up riches that no-one can take away, that do not rust, etc,, etc. That is what my Jupiter in the 2nd house conjunct Neptune in Scorpio has brought me!! I was hoping it would be lots of riches and cash, but oh well, what I have brings me joy everytime I think of all of the wonderful memories, fun, laughter and love, that I have shared with those I love! Since I could never have children, all of my nieces, great nieces have been "mine" also!
Take Care,
Regina