25 by UBER Andrew J. Bevan wrote: Lazio - Roma 3-2 It appears to me as if something was going for the underdogs.. Rome 19-03-2008 20-15 GMT ASc=04Scorp20' Lazio(U) is a nominal home team, but I assume ASC is Fav, that is ROMA (F). Chart isn't radical. (-F) AntisPOF square ASC (-F) Sun L10 in strong critical degree - last degree of astrological year. (-F) MARS L1 accidentally +3 Venus L7 accidentally +13 Alexey Quote Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:57 pm
26 by Andrew Bevan Rome game: The game is played in the hour of Mercury with Mars being lord of the Scorpio ascendant. Mercury and Scorpio are in the same triplicity, thus the chart is radical. Moon translates from Mars to Mercury. However, I note your observations with interest. http://www.astronor.com Quote Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:18 pm
27 by Gem I may change my mind later but here's some of my current thoughts on the weekend games(yes already ) 22/3,1245, Tottenham/Portsmouth Moon trine POF. Spurs' win, probably. 17:15 Everton/Wigan Moon conjunct anti-Mercury, but there're more than 5 degs between them. The Moon's next aspect is to Jupiter, again, there're more than 5 degs. Draw or Everton'win. 23/3, 13:30 Man U/Liverpool There're a few testimonies for Man U. The strongest ones are: Liverpool's sig Saturn is just inside MC and Saturn is opposed by POF. I don't like, however, the Moon being right on IC. I'd advise Sir Alex to delay the kick-off time. In fact any footbball team who wants to be successful should employ competent astrologers like us Nevertherless I'd go for Man U's win(hopefully). 16:00 Chelsea/Arsenal Mercury(Chelsea)is inside DC(about 3 degs) and anti-Jupiter(Arsenal) is near IC(7 degs). Are these too far away from the cusps to be meaningful? If they're effective at all, then Arsenal'll win but seeing that the Moon isn't making any aspects within the current sign, draw is also a strong possibility. Last edited by Gem on Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:49 pm, edited 1 time in total. Quote Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:23 pm
28 by UBER Andrew J. Bevan wrote:Rome game: The game is played in the hour of Mercury with Mars being lord of the Scorpio ascendant. Mercury and Scorpio are in the same triplicity, thus the chart is radical. Moon translates from Mars to Mercury. However, I note your observations with interest. Mercury in Pisces in water triplicity... it is a novelty for me Valencia vs Barsa 20-03-2008 19-45 GMT A Hour of Saturn. Andrew, Is chart a radical? Barsa=ASC Venus +12 Exalt Valencia=DSC Mars +3 Fall B.Brady write that benefic in good conditions and malefic in poor conditions have almost same good effect. AntVenus conj ASC (+Barsa) Last aspect of Moon is trine with angular Ju (+Barsa). IMHO, This aspect is hindered by mutual reception of detriment. (-/2 Barsa) Next aspect - nothing. That is home team don't receive any help. (-Valence) Mars aspect retrograde Saturn but, I think, it don't give points. Saturn trine POF (0 Taurus) (-Barsa) Very close to DRAW. PS. Exalted Sun in first degree of Aries may give some unexpected things. Alexey Quote Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:31 pm
29 by Andrew Bevan This evenings lower league matches at 19.45 GMT Tranmere Rovers - Port Vale Odds: 1,60 3,50 5,65 Grays Athletic - Droylsden Odds: 1,45 3,60 7,00 ...are both being played with the Moon, L10, being VOC. Hands off from my part, but shall we monitor the matches for the unexpected? The Moon is said to still function when VOC in signs of her dignity. Does her position in her own triplicity in any way improve her performance from a VOC perspective? ----------------------------- UBER - hour of Saturn with Libra ascending is radical. Saturn rules the asc by exaltation and probably the most potent combination when considering competitions. That is my view. http://www.astronor.com Quote Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:39 pm
30 by Ficina Gem, I've also looked at the weekend games. Couldn't resist Grand Slam Sunday I'll just add some testimonies to the ones you've already mentioned. Spurs/Portsmouth Moon conj IC but over 1 deg away in 3rd so probably not effective. Agree Spurs win or possibly draw. Everton/West Ham Moon conj ant Mercury (L1) is only just over 5 degs, but POF combust is not good for faves, Everton, so I'm not sure on this one. Sunday Grand Slam, Moon is VOC, so possibility of draws in both but I'm tempted to go for the underdogs. ManU/Liverpool - loads of testimonies! For ManU (faves) Moon conj antiscion POF Antiscion Saturn in 10th just over 3 degs so a bit wide. For Liverpool Moon conj IC Anti POF conj IC (3 degs) Moon opp antiscion Saturn (L7) All this antiscial stuff is rather confusing. I fancy Liverpool but it could be a draw. Chelsea/Arsenal Mercury(Chelsea)is inside DC(about 3 degs) and anti-Jupiter(Arsenal) is near IC(7 degs). Are these too far away from the cusps to be meaningful? I think ant Jupiter is too far but Mercury is fine - Arsenal in control. Again, we have POF combust which is bad for the faves, Chelsea. I'm going for Arsenal to win (fingers crossed). Quote Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:29 pm
31 by Ficina Valencia/Barca. UBER, I agree this will probably be a draw - Moon VOC. Also there are two additional testimonies which I'm guessing will cancel each other out. Moon conj antiscion POF (faves) and POF square its dispositor Mars (underdogs). If it's a 1-1 draw then it will have to go to extra time/penalties. I'm inclined to give Valencia the Asc on colours, so they would have the benefit of the antiscion Venus that you mentioned. It will be very interesting to see how it turns out Quote Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:26 pm
32 by Gem Ficina Enjyoed reading your observations. I've never paid attention to combust POF before... You've seen it working against faves in the past? Can it be affected for being 'invisible' as it's a non-physical point, or I wonder it can be a case of being overwhelmed by the Sun(faves or teams signified by the Sun)?? Quote Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:10 am
33 by john Seeing that the weekend's matches are getting attention already, I'll join in now. ASTROLOGICAL WEALTH WARNING - Do not bet your shirt (whatever colour it may be) on the following predictions: Tottenham/Portsmouth. Draw. Moon's next aspect greater than 6 degrees Everton/WHU. Draw. Moons next aspect greater than 5 degrees. Man U/Liverpool. Liverpool. POS square Moon on IC Chelsea v Arsenal. Chelsea. Mercury on desc (less than 3 degrees) and also MC ruler Quote Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:19 am
34 by Andrew Bevan A slip of pen from my part, UBER. Sorry I didn't spot it before. Andrew J. Bevan wrote: Rome game: The game is played in the hour of Mercury with Mars being lord of the Scorpio ascendant. Mercury and Scorpio are in the same triplicity, thus the chart is radical. Moon translates from Mars to Mercury. However, I note your observations with interest. UBER: Mercury in Pisces in water triplicity... it is a novelty for me That should read Mars. Mercury and Mars are in the same triplicity. Mercury is in Pisces, Mars is in Cancer. Thus, they are in the same triplicity. http://www.astronor.com Quote Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:31 am
35 by UBER Ficina wrote: I'm inclined to give Valencia the Asc on colours Valencia/Barca 3:2 If Valecia were faves, then "benefit of the antiscion Venus on ASC" Alexey Quote Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:34 am
36 by Ficina Gem wrote:Ficina I've never paid attention to combust POF before... You've seen it working against faves in the past? No, but JF mentions it in his book. So far I haven't had any charts to test it out on so it will be interesting to see how/if it works. Can it be affected for being 'invisible' as it's a non-physical point I wondered that too but a case of being overwhelmed by the Sun(faves or teams signified by the Sun)?? Yes, overwhelmed or destroyed by the Sun per se I would think is the reasoning behind it. Uber, If Valencia were faves, then "benefit of the antiscion Venus on ASC" Barca were the faves. When the away team are faves I look at colours to decide who gets the Asc. I didn't think ant Venus on Asc was sufficient for Valencia to win in normal time but looking at the chart again, there was no fixity or late degrees to suggest that the game would go to extra time/penalties. Hindsight is a wonderful thing Quote Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:40 am