Does my dog still want to live?

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I know I should have explained the situation clearly to seek help but I am distraughted now. Pardon me if I sound rude or confused. I'm trying to grab the last straw here as I have no clues what my dog wants. I've tried all my best to nurse my dog and his condition which has improved in the past weeks have take a down turn these two days. I don't know if that is the healing crisis or he is telling me he is about to go.

He is a very timid, shy, introverted senior dog, who loves to stay home and each time I brought him to a vet, he comes home with stress and frustration. He has visited the vet weekly for the past two months. I feel sorry for him to go through these but he has shown remarkable improvement in the past few weeks, these two days his condition seems to worsen.

His regular vet is away and I have to bring him to a new vet which were further. I was halfway to drive him to the vet but his eyes tell me he doesn't want to go. He gave out a loud rejected sound when I carried him out door, he knows I am bringing him to the vet. I bite my teeth and carry him with hopes the vet can help him with his breathing but half way through the journey, he is struggling hard, trembling and rejecting. I know he doesn't want to go to the vet, I brought him home with tears. I dont' know if I am doing the right thing. He immediately feels comfortable at home though still panting hard but there are moments of rest. I was so afraid he will die in the journey or the hospital by the time we reach.

He is still eating well, He loves food. He really loves eating. I think he lives to eat. He is still very alert, have strong cravings for his favourite food but he is panting with difficulties. I gave him all the food he desires, his all time favourite. He is eating them well with enthusiam. I think that is the first time he loves me since he is ill. I was feeding him with all the awlful medications , cooking him all those bland diets, invading him by inserting thermometer in his rectum to check tempretures, flipping his eyelids to check discharge, bringing him to hot steam bath room, hand feeding him to ensure he doesn't pick only his fav meat and leave the veg, grains aside, keeping away all his fav snack and said no to him when he begs for one, sleeping besides him all night to ensure he is still breathing........ I think he really hate me these few months. I fed him his fav meals today and this is the first time he runs to me after meal and gives me that naughty satisfied snort, that is his usual way of saying thank. I have missed that for months.

I don't know if I am making the right decision to keep him home instead of insisting to send him to the hospital. My family members want to keep him home, they don't want him to go through all the drama of the hospital scene, but for a moment, I decided to send him there. But I withdraw at the midst of the journey. He is really looking afraid in the car. I feel so sorry for him.

Can you tell me if he does want to live, if he prefers to stay home till his last day? If he will be well again?

15 June 2008
8.22pm
103e51, 1n16


Sorry, I don't know what to do. And I am not in the frame of mind too try the chart. If you are able to help, any help is appreciated. Thanks!
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Can you tell me if he does want to live, if he prefers to stay home till his last day? If he will be well again?
Using the chart you posted, and taking the 6th house, its ruler and the Moon to signify your dog, I think he is telling you that he prefers to stay at home. The Sun rules the 8th house and is placed in the 6th ? an indication of his decline, but Mercury, his main significator, is on the cusp of his own house; which we take as an indication of strength within one?s own environment and familiar surroundings. With the Moon applying closely to the square of Mars in the 8th, the chart shows that he is currently having a crisis. You have to decide whether you would feel better taking him to the vet or not, if the worst should happen under these circumstances. It may be that the stress of taking him to the vet is counter productive, and if we follow Culpeper?s technique of using the Moon (as 7th house ruler) to signify the treating physician (ie vet) then the Moon applying to the square of Mars does not present a good argument for taking him to the vet. On the other hand, the Moon then makes a sextile to Jupiter in the first house, which is an indication of relief, so maybe you could think about calling the vet out, or enquiring whether he could treat the dog at your home this time?

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Thanks Deb. Really appreciate it. I've tried calling the whole island's vets but NONE do home visit. His regular vet is not in town.

Thanks for letting me know he prefers to stay home, its a relief for me to know I did not made the wrong decision to detour. He is now resting in the living room with my family members. Panting but he looks comfortable.

My family and I are having diverse opinions in how to handle his condition. They want him to pass on naturally at home without any more medications or treatmens. I do have strong desires to have him treated but I don't know if that is a selfish part of me refusing to let him go, at the same time, I don't want him to go through all the drama if the treatment is not going to help him recover. He is 14 this year, an abandoned dog which we picked him from the street 11 years ago.

I see that moon is going to square mars after sextile Jupiter and part of fortune is in the 8th about to perfect a square with moon. Does the chart reveal further treatment is not going to help him better and death is near?
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I agree with Deb, it seems to me that your dog prefers to be at home. Not only is his ruler Mercury in his own sign conjunct the sixth house cusp, Mercury is unaspected - which says to me that he stays put. Moon will sextile Jupiter in the first house (your domain) and square Mars in the eighth in quick succession, which appears to be describing an inflammatory condition that is most comfortably dealt with at home.

Whatever you do, you are seeking what is best for your beloved friend and take comfort in that, whatever happens and whichever course of action you take. Such love is always rewarded, sometimes in ways that are hard to see at the time. Blessings to you both.

(Edited to add: You asked if further treatment is likely to produce a cure. I use the unturned 10th house to signify the remedy/cure, and its ruler Venus is in your dog's first house - the sixth of the radical chart - unaspected by any of the classical planets. I take this to mean that nature is taking her course and that this is a gentle means to deal with the situation. If you turn the chart so that the 4th house becomes your dog's 10th, Aries is on the cusp and the ruler, Mars, is squared by the Moon after Moon sextiles Jupiter - so I think the message is the same, both ways. )

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Honeybee
Sorry to hear about your dog.
Astraea wrote: Not only is his ruler Mercury in his own sign conjunct the sixth house cusp, Mercury is unaspected - which says to me that he stays put.
Just want to add that Mercury is also very slow, almost stationary.

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Thanks all.

Initially, full of optimisim and self denial, I read the mercury though retrograde is moving away from sun beam and about to move forward soon, I see that as signs of getting stronger soon ..... Seeing the moon aspects, I know that can't be true though I really wish it will.

When Mercury, his significator, is going slow and almost stationary does it mean he is still hanging on?
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Could you possibly telephone the vet's office and explain that your dog is very stressed by hospitalizations, and ask for their best recommendation regarding home care? The slow Mercury suggests to me that your dog is literally slowing down, not going anywhere, but the vet might be able to help you know what to do for your friend until his regular vet returns. Especially if the new vet has access your dog's medical records, he or she might be able to adjust meds, etc. Perhaps such guidance would be especially helpful for you at this time, as it is agonizing to try and make major decisions without some level of professional input.

Moon in this chart would refer to the vet (Cancer on the cusp of the 7th house, ruling the doctor), and since the Moon sextiles Jupiter in the first house (your domain) before squaring Mars, my thought is that a phone call wouldn't hurt. By whole signs, Moon also sextiles Saturn (ruler of the radical first), even though the two bodies are widely separated by degree. The vet might not be able to do much for your friend, but at least you might be able to glean some helpful information. I am so sorry that you are faced with this situation, I've been there and it's rough.

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I have managed to get hold of a vet at 4+am and did a phone consultation. The vet has never seen my boy and yet he is courages enough to advice feeding him another dosage of the prescribed medicine to make him feel better.

I am very disappointed with the regular vet, really. He is unreachable when his patient needs him. I tried to phone his clinic but all his staff does is to suggest bringing him to the hospital, they can't offer any advice without vet examination and why can't they just contact him and ask?! I feel guilty for entrusting my boy to wrong hands..... I have thought the vet is good and reliable ..............

My boy is resting much better and look all alert when he wakes up. He runs to his fav spot to pee and runs back with that heap sigh of relief happily. He always do that the first thing in the morning the moment he wakes up and sneaking behind me when I went out of the house to throw rubbish. lol He is eating the egg cheese vege omelette I made for him as breakfast. He loves them as usual. He is showing signs telling me he still enjoy his food and he is still finding joy in his life isn't it... ... There are so many food he hasn't tried and I am sure he will like them if he has a chance... ...

I understand pet owners will have to experience the grief and loss of their pet one day and I know it wasn't easy but I didn't know its so hard and so pain....
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Honeybee, I am glad that you were able to speak with a vet about your boy, and that you got some advice about what to do. My vet always says that as long as our companions are eating, going to the bathroom normally and showing pleasure in life, they tend to be better off at home and it sounds like things have settled down.

Yes, the pain of seeing our animal companions suffer - especially because they cannot directly tell us how they feel, and what they want - is enormous. It seems to me that you are handling this crisis with grace, courage and balance. You and your dog are very blessed to share such a great and generous love.

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sorry to keep it brief, does this chart reveal if he is able to pass on naturally or he needs help?

He had a wonderful yesterday. I think the additional dosage help. He appears so energectic and I asked him if he wants to take a walk? He looked at me with confused and when I tried to carry him, I knew he resisted. Alright, don't walk. But he keeps looking at the door. I tried to hold him again and asked if he wanted to step out? He placed his weight firmly down on the floor. Ok, don't walk. Let's stay home. Then something strike my mind. I went and picked up his collar and waved at him, he sprung up with delight and dashed out of the door with excitement and keeps hurrying me to join him! He runs like a puppy! He had thought I wanted to bring him to the vet which is the only thing I do when I carried him out door in these two months. When I waved the collar, he knows, its play time! He runs and plays like a puppy! I have missed this sight of him ever since he fell sick.

I fed him his favourite food! I brushed him and the whole family take our time to talk to him and want him to pass on peacefully. I know getting a stranger at his last weakest moment to inject a needle is not going to make him feel better. I know he wants to be surrounded by only us and at home, places and people he knows, not a stranger with a needle. I may have to do it instead of letting a stranger appear in front of him at his weakest moment.

I watch him sleeping peacefully. I have thought the time has reached and he won't be greeting me this morning anymore. He is still with me this morning wagging his tail when he sees me. lol I know the time is not there yet, but I want to know if he will pass on peacefully or he will need help to cross the bridge?

I have told him, I will respect whatever decisions he makes. From my heart, I know he wouldn't want to be helped if he can, but I don't know if I am right on this.

I've noted the birth of the chart for this question but if you can help does the this chart already shown signs of that.

Appreciate greatly.
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Honeybee, I am very glad that your dog is still with you, still playful and hungry and happy, and that the increased dose of medication helped him.

As to whether he will need assistance in passing, in my view the chart for the crisis yesterday indicated that your boy didn't want to go - and wouldn't go - to the vet for that purpose at that particular time; it seems to me that yesterday's chart applied to yesterday's situation, and it is not open-ended as to future conditions. I think that a general question about the circumstances surrounding your friend's passing will probably not be helpful in a practical way, because his health is fluctuating and critical decisions sometimes involve surprises and need to be made very quickly.

It would be possible to draw up a horary chart for each fresh situation, but I honestly think that you will know when, and how, to help your dog, and it will come from your heart based on the close connection between the two of you. In the meantime, you are enjoying each other and sharing very special times together, and what a wonderful gift that is.

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Hi all,

Thanks for the understanding and help extended when I was at a complete lost.

I have underestimated this little fellow, my boy is resting and sleeping beside me snoring loudly as usual. :)

I broke my promise and brought him to a vet few days ago. He has been to 3 vets and 8 check ups in less than 2 months but none is able to tell me whats wrong with him, each of them has different diagnosis on his health condition. Maybe Mercury Retrograde plays a part on this confusion as it all happens within the shadow and retrograding period.

Vet 1 rules out heart and liver problems and diagnosed an upper respiratory problem.
Vet 2 rules out upper respiratory and heart problem and diagnosed a liver problem.
Vet 3 rules out upper respiratory and liver problem but diagnosed a heart problem.

He is currently on heart and liver medication but for some reasons I'm suspecting the main problem lies in the upper respiratory.

I'm planning to take him to a new vet next week who will provide house visit service where further reviews can be done at home. I asked the question What is his health problem? and cast the chart

27 June 2008
7.29am
103e51, 1n16

I'm am amatuer in horary and have not done any question regarding health condition before, I have searched for some information online and am applying to the chart here. I value your input on this.

- Jupiter rules Liver
- Leo rules heart
- Venus rules throat

Jupiter in the chart is retrograding in his 2nd house but in its own term. It shows there is some problem with the liver. He is currently on heart and liver medication and his last blood sample test taken a month ago showed positive results on the liver.

My concern is the throat, upper respiratory problem.. venus is combust by sun in the 8th house. The depositor moon has just seperated from a square with venus. Venus also rule his 6th house. Venus is peregrine and in a very bad shape.

Am I right to say that my suspicious is right and he does has a lower respiratory problem?

Appreciate your input on this. Thanks.

[Edit: After searching for more information.. .. it seems to be lower respiratory problem rather than upper respiratory problem ]
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