Sources, like politico.com have stated that he was "affirmative actioned" into the position of Pres of the Harvard Law Review and, while there, never wrote a single paper. so, you have to understand his mindset. He thinks we owe him something for his miserable childhood, during which he was abandoned not just by one parent, but by both.

Susan Estrich, a former Harvard Law Review editor, has stated that he did in fact produce a wide range of edited case analyses.

The notion that one can "understand his mindset" from any of this, let alone that "he thinks we owe him something," is unsupportable, astrologically or otherwise (similar remarks have been made about Hillary Clinton as well).

Is it true McCain adopted Obama's abandoned baby?

the birth certificate has been debunked by an official Hawaiian health official
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/P ... /12939.htm
so speculations are still up in the air as to why Obama's campaign would stonewall the Public with lies.
some speculation is still there that since Barack Sr was already married, they couldn't marry in the States, so took advantage of the summer break to go to Kenya where they could marry, however, polygamously, and have her baby there, out of the view of her mother's society. Madelyn Dunham was a VP for a bank. Possibly when she returned, she passed Barry off as "adopted".
It is speculated that this is why Obama and MacAskill, democrats, sponsored legislation that would allow McCain, born in the Panama canal to run for POTUSA. Of course, he was already eligible, but they didn't do their homework. The legislation passed, of course, allows the stipulation that the child born abroad to two American citizens is "natural born" due to being born on a military base.
The birth in Kenya and the birth in Honolulu differ in the Moon being 7 degrees in advance (Honolulu) and also the vimsotarri dasa (for those of you who are vedic astrologers) there is a 2 yr sun period, followed by the 10 yr moon period which also fits well with the fact that Barry's father left him at age 2.

Susan Estrich, a former Harvard Law Review editor, has stated that he did in fact produce a wide range of edited case analyses.

Not exactly what one could call a non-partisan source.

Tom

Just a little note to sy that I think Obama's Birth cert is posted on the net. His birth time reads 7:24 p.m. Magic Mal
I hope I created the link correctly: http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert

Dear Mallacy,
It seems that this article appeared
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/P ... /12939.htm
and now it seems that the birth certidicate is not really
holding up
It apparently looks like a photobucket job

The thing I find very odd is how that announcement at UAC was so close and yet so far. Before the ?Birth Certificate? was made public, we were told that the time of birth was 7:11 pm:

The time was announced by Dallas astrologer Joni Patry, who said she obtained it from a client who works for the Obama campaign. She in turn obtained it from a ?campaign manager? who accessed the data through a closed-access government database.

planetwaves.net

The client was obviously wanting to please Patry and had no reason to lie. Why would anyone else want to distort the record by just a few minutes? And after going to all this trouble to provide the information, its hardly likely that a typo caused the discrepancy. It?s just odd.

One gentleman has contacted the Attorney General office of Hawaii to request the birth certificate, if any. see my update at http://democratsforrealchange.info
Apparently the original "fake" birth certificate was again altered and run through Photoshop and GIMP to give it the missing seal.
So, I'm afraid there's still a lot of mystery here,
We're not sure if Obama is playing a game of Gotcha by refusing an authentic birth certificate.

Tom wrote:

To me, Obama is a warm & personable kind of guy. To me, that's Taurus. Not nervous & flighty, which would be Gemini.

Yes, but look at his physical appearance. Obama's appearance is what I would call "Mercurial," and that suggests Gemini. He's tall, lanky, well spoken all Gemini traits and these are the types of things that cannot be hidden. People can project warmth without being warm. I think we have to be careful with public demeanor when looking at celebriities particularly polticians, who try, understandably, to always put their best foot forward when people rae watching. Hillary doesn't throw lamps in public.

Arbitrarily I cast a chart for 1:06 AM and 1 Gemini rises, THe Moon is exalted at 23 Taurus, in the 12th trine Saturn Rx in Capricorn. Saturn rules the MC, and the Moon is on Algol. His celebrity will be short lived. But like I said, this was arbitrary and untested.

Tom

Very close, Tom.

BC suggests another air sign, Aquarius rising.

This may be a good time to revisit Obama.

Tom wrote:Obama's birth time has been pretty much settled as 7:24 PM (Aug 4 1961 Honolulu, HI) as that is on the birth certificates that have been released. Although I find Dr. H's rectification intriguing 7:54:28 PM only thirty minutes different than the BC and both have Aquarius rising. The most obvious difference is that in the rectification the malefic south node is smack on the ASC. The rectified chart was released to us long before the birth certificates, and I recall some bogus times came out about the time of the 2008 election.

Yeah it might be a decent time to look at his chart (unemotionally please). Things don't seem to be going his way.

Dr H's rectification is more credible than the official time. Just look at his 2004 Solar Return. He was marked as a "rising star" after his DNC speech in late August 2004. [for the solar return] The official time shows Cancer rising with Saturn/Cancer. Dr H's time shows Leo rising with Sun/Leo (obviously). The latter is much more likely to start off his period of fame as a "rising star" in national piolitics.
Here is his 2011 solar return and it's not good to say the least, especially since he is repeating a cycle [profections] he last went through from August 1999 to August 2000 - he lost his only election, a primary race against democrat incumbent Bobby Rush. Note Mars/Cancer at the IC. One day after his birthday 30 U.S soldiers were killed in a Taliban attack in Afghanistan and the U.S had it's credit rating downgraded to AA+ by S&P.

Tom wrote:Obama's birth time has been pretty much settled as 7:24 PM (Aug 4 1961 Honolulu, HI) as that is on the birth certificates that have been released. Although I find Dr. H's rectification intriguing 7:54:28 PM only thirty minutes different than the BC and both have Aquarius rising. The most obvious difference is that in the rectification the malefic south node is smack on the ASC. The rectified chart was released to us long before the birth certificates, and I recall some bogus times came out about the time of the 2008 election.

Yeah it might be a decent time to look at his chart (unemotionally please).

I don't know whether you remember the 70's, Tom, and the brief reign of something called progressive rock, with lots of earnest students sagely stroking straggled beards whilst staring blankly at indecipherable lyrics about goblins & elven people. Now in those days the top ten was considered a slightly inferior brand largely made up of tinsel, spangles and sequins, more of a here today, gone tomorrow thing.

Well I have an inkling that astrology has followed a similar trend. The majority of my astrological library from the 70's seems to focus more on the predictive use of progressions, directions etc.,whilst giving the spandex clad trendsters of transits a slightly lesser role than is currently the fashion. For whatever reason progressions seem to have been demoted from their halcyon days in the 60/70's. Not such a wise move, for example Obama's transits are tranquil to the point of trance inducing, however a nostalgic wave of joss sticks mixed with a few gentle if pungent wafts of pachouli oil does the trick - these progressions are...very heavy!

Obama - Prog Mars sq Natal Saturn (ruler ASC).


Cameron - Prog Mars opp Saturn (6H poor & dispossesed).



Its going to be tough for either leader to withstand and survive such an aspect, its a helluva long way from their golden boy beginnings or to put it succinctly...to quote Keith Richards.."The rock's easy, but the roll is another thing..."
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greg

Do I remember the 70s? Which way do I take this? Am I too young or too old to recall them? And the answer is .... too old. But while I don't have any serious quibble with your astrological analysis, one statement did stand out:

Now in those days the top ten was considered a slightly inferior brand largely made up of tinsel, spangles and sequins, more of a here today, gone tomorrow thing.

All rock music is here today gone tomorrow. It's a business. Are lyrics any more decipherable now than then? The only difference as far as I can tell is the obscenities are more common now and perhaps thought to be more romantic when coupled with images of the mutilation of women. I was never a big rock music fan even though I grew up in the 50s and 60s. Therefore rock analogies are lost on me from that era or this. It all sounds like static with the volume up too high.

"Transits are not enough," at least that is what my first astrology teacher told me. Although she was a thoroughgoing modern astrologer, she was right. We need progressions/directions or even solar arcs to give us the big picture. Transits usually trigger them.

We have to be particularly careful with US politics. The next Presidential election is 15 months away. That is an eternity over here, not to mention that we don't have an opposition candidate, yet. But I agree, things look more difficult for the two leaders than they have in the past.