Resuming last night in CL:
- no 7 goals-game
- 1 0-0 game...a surprise produced by Werder
- no 1 goal-game
- many 3 and 4 goals-games

In conclusion based on the fact that my stats are based on Premier I think that the results are quite ok. But you cannot count on it...yet.

Today games are on the same influence Moon/Mercury/Venus.

But for me it was a good night...I avoided Rome and Werder because of low odds and I made some good bets.

john wrote:
Hello all, and thank you Dan for the information.

I have Manchester United forming on 28th April 1902.

My query is whether the date of formation (if known) is the best date or the date of the first game. I appreciate that in a lot of cases clubs form after the end of a season and play a first game at the start of a season. In Manchester United's case the first league game was in September 1902, away at Gainsborough.

Hi John,

I'm using 26th of April 1902 for M.United. I don't remember exactly from where I got this date. But from my point of view it's working very well.

The dates am using are the dates where the 'shareholders' meet - the moment when the decision was taken. If this info is not available I'm using the first game date or changing name date.

For example in case of Manchester U. poor form for this weeks we have a good astrological explanation: Saturn squaring in transit the natal Moon (the most important for this period of time) and Uranus conjunct with natal Venus.

Starting with 29th August M.U. lost 2 games and made 1 draw. At the same moment Saturn start approaching for the perfect square with Moon.
See the below link http://tinyurl.com/3gpr46

Around 1st of Oct. Saturn will make the perfect square. This make me think that for the next 2-3 weeks M.United will still have problems. Saturn square Moon might translate in poor morale.

In the same time Saturn is transiting natal Juno (I know you are not using it). Juno is all about team relationship and from the game point of view is an indication of poor/imprecise passes and team coordination on the field.

Dan

Hi Dan,

Thanks for coming back to me.

I've been double checking the Man United date, I keep getting the 28th, rather than the 26th!!

I agree with the meeting to form the club/first game, it is as much as I can hope for when researching the history of each club.

If I get the chance, I'll look back to the Saturn Moon transit, although your Moon position for the 26th will differ from mine on the 28th!!

Hi John,

I've searched again to find out from where I got the 26 date and I think I've found the source:

"The Official Illustrated History of Manchester United" book
http://books.google.com/books?id=0VCPwf ... yATe8PzpAw

This book was in limited preview some time ago on Google books. Right now if you search it like this you will see the 26th date: http://books.google.com/books?q=manches ... arch+Books

This 26 date is also posted on WIkipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C.

Dan

I've got 26/4/1902 too.
Got it from:

"The Official Illustrated History of Manchester United" book

A copy was in a local bookshop.

Gem, Dan. Thanks for the information. I've had a first quick check and came up with this link, making reference to the 28th! I'll keep on looking.

http://www.unitedonline.co.uk/history/1902-1931.php

Edit number 1

http://www.fsf.org.uk/ground-guide/stad ... -trafford/

This also mentions the 28th.!!

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C.

Thanks John
Hmmmm we may either have to write to the club to clarify the matter or compare the two charts to see which one makes better sense...