Sorry to interrupt, but things have taken an odd turn.

I brought this chart up again to see if I could make any sense of it (I stink at horary) and then I noticed something strange. I mentioned that Jones named the Sabian Symbol for the 12th degree of Capricorn as ?Eloquence?. When the chart appeared today on my Solar Fire horary page I immediately noticed that the 1st house Jupiter in the 14th degree of Capricorn is conjunct the Part of Reasoning & Eloquence (!) with an orb of 25'. Another part/lot file I have lists it as the Part of Reason & Sense. The part/lot is at 13 CAP 26 (which is the 14th degree of Capricorn). The Asc is conjunct the part with an orb of less than 2 degrees.

The cosmic joke is on me. The Sabian Symbol matches the 1st house Part of Reasoning & Eloquence/Sense ? and the need for reason and sense were my points in discussing the use of the Sabian Symbols! I will even be so bold as to say that the Sabian Symbol teamed up with the Part of Reasoning & Eloquence/Sense to show that that is what this chart is all about, or at least that the chart would serve as a source of discussion of them. Jupiter is also trine Saturn in the 9th ? more reason, sense & eloquence in our own little academy.

What I haven't mentioned in this and other threads on the Symbols is that I have had this sort of thing happen a number of times with them, but I don't trust them. When it comes to delineating a chart and predicting I still say they are too vague and potentially misleading, easily preying on a confused, fearful or hopeful mind.

I think I'm done now.

Jupiter is also trine Saturn in the 9th ? more reason, sense & eloquence in our own little academy.

Actually Kirk, Saturn is in the 8th. and I thought the chart was about the possibility of an earthquake.

Tara

Sorry, I've been using Whole Sign houses a lot lately (they're becoming more accurate for me) and got confused as to which one I was currently looking at.

What I wrote wasn't about earthquakes, but it did tie in with the discussion of how the Sabian Symbols didn't seem to indicate earthquakes, but rather how one of them more accurately indicated the direction the thread took. The symbol and the part/lot show the discussion the chart would produce on the Internet.

Hi Ema et al,

I said I'd see if I could find any Neptune signatures in earthquakes and in the first chart I looked at ... the May 12, 2008 earthquake in China ... the Moon in Leo is conjunct the South Node and applying to the opposition of Neptune, which is the very aspect in the horary under consideration which has me concerned.

Tara

Hi all

I would not be so concentrated on the month but I would love to foresee if Cascadia fault really erupts in our lifetime. The last time there was anything supermajor was in 1700. The tsunami travelled all the way to Japan. There is a written record of "ghost tsunami" hitting Japan's mainland. I highly doubt that it will happen in December. There were a lot of people claiming that they predicted 9/11. I did not see any boards at that time buzzing about 9/11 on 9/10.

Cascadia does erupt every 300 to 600 years. The first record was found at 3,500 years ago. The cycle has repeated 7 times thus far.

I woudl also look at the chart from a perspective of "is the rumor true or not"

2 cents of nothing
CD

said I'd see if I could find any Neptune signatures in earthquakes and in the first chart I looked at ... the May 12, 2008 earthquake in China ... the Moon in Leo is conjunct the South Node and applying to the opposition of Neptune, which is the very aspect in the horary under consideration which has me concerned.

Hi Tara, this is true but what counts here is (IMO) not the opposition with Neptune but the link with the nodes - which are crucial focal points in "disaster" charts simply because they mark the eclipse points... During the last months, the node is conjunct Neptune in all event charts. Earthquake charts very often have eclipse points activated by one or the other planet. I haven't got time right now to check other earthquake charts but I did some research lately and I do remember one of the 10 worst earthquakes happened at the time of exact (partile) opposition of the Moon to Uranus... In any event, this demands more research... Hopefully I can do some in the near future...

himnotcool wrote, about the web bots,

Its latest predictions are major events occuring on October 7th this year, and then a 9.0 scale magnitude earthquake in the Pacific Northwest this coming December.

October 7 has come and gone with nothing major or traumatic happening so I guess we can all breathe easier about the earthquake prediction.

Tara

Not so fast about nothing happening on Oct 7th. The web bots said that the 7th was the beginning of 5 or 6 months of high emotion. That is also the day the dow dropped to 5% and Iceland went bankrupt, along with the European and Asian stock markets. Also that is the day the asteroid hit the earth. Mythologically that signifies a bad omen. It never said it was going to be one major event, in fact it said 40% economic, 40% military, and the rest 'terra activity' which is the earth itself. I get frustrated when people say 'nothing at all happened that day' when it's clear a lot of things did, it just didn't effect them personally (yet) so they're quick to blow it off. Remember, it's a snow ball effect...Don't be surprised if some strange, very very strange, things begin happening in the near future. It mentions extra terrestrial involvement sometime in 2009 as well. A long with nuclear attacks on our soil. This goes along with what many psychics are getting visions and dreams about lately as well, so it's not only the Web bots that I'm listening to....


With all that said, I hope they're all wrong. It just doesn't seem that they are so far...

Hi hiimnotcool

I agree. Could you please send me the webot link where you read this? The other links you posted were informative, but not as comprehensive as you just mentioned. I'd PM you, but I don't know how to do that on this forum

thanks
pallasgirl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdef1yNz2ms


That is the beginning of a 12 part radio interview with the two gentleman who discovered the Web bots software. It is VERY interesting and it's better than anything you could read online just because it's straight from the horses' mouth so to speak. It has EVERYTHING you would like to know about it, but it will be well worth it if you have the time.

Thanks hiimnotcool

I just went to youtube and watched all the videos that are still available. Only videos 2,5,8, 10 and 12 are available to listen to now, the rest of them are unavailable. Which is too bad, cause those are the ones with all the predictions. I did pick up that October 7th would be the beginning of a global economic disaster, and that it only gets worse from here. The next 5 months sound grim indeed. Not just high emotion, but our whole economy as we know it will collapse...so get your Y2K packs ready once again. The big earthquake they predicted for Dec 10-12 is in the Pacific Northwest between 32 and 36 degrees latitude, so that would be much lower than Vancouver. We're 49n here. They also mentioned something happening Oct 15...smaller scale, but they think it has to do with a giant 'military misunderstanding' of some sort. Whatever that may be. Interesting videos, but i'd like to know more. They were dead on with the economic global disaster stuff for Oct 08...especially the 7th, when it all peaked. I'm paying attention to this. Thanks for the info.
Let me know if you find any more printed literature from these dudes, or another radio broadcast etc.....

pallasgirl

Latitude 32-36 degrees north is southern California. No way is that ever considered the Pacific Northwest! Now if they actually said 42-46 degrees that would be Oregon.

People have been avidly predicting economic disaster for well over a year now. The housing bubble, high gasoline prices, high government and individual debt, fears of catastrophic climate change and various other factors have been convincing signals of serious problems for anybody not using astrology or who is 'psychic'. Are these guys and all the others now simply joining the bandwagon of current fear and claiming grand psychic visions? I would be much more impressed by anyone who made their astrological or psychic economic predictions 5-10 years ago before the collapsing of corporations.