Hi all, please tell me if I am wrong. We leave in different places now but still contacting frequently and talk a lot. We studied at university 3 years ago and there is spark between us.
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Ascendand Cancer
Moom sextile Saturn - great
Moon (me) is in 5th house of true love and romance- that is me and my adjustment.
Saturn in 4th house (he)indicates trouble in home or other thing
Sun conj. Moon in 5th
Ascendant in 3 degree - too early
11th house cups( house of wishies and hopes in Aries and ruled by Mars. Mars in 5th house with sextile to Saturn and conj. Moon

Thanks

Well, there is no sextile from the Moon to Saturn because the Moon will reach Mars before that aspect can complete so someone will frustrate your uniting together. Plus the Sun conjunct the Moon is usually a bad thing in horary. In my opinion the answer is 'No'.

Thanks for your respond, I didn`t know that Sun Moon conj is a bad aspect in horary, probably the answear is No.

Plus the Sun conjunct the Moon is usually a bad thing in horary. In my opinion the answer is 'No'.

First I've heard! In relationship questions the man get the Sun as well as the sign ruling the seventh house. The querent's signigicator is the Moon. If they are coming together in an aspect relevant to the question it is still the answer (can't tell if this is separating or applying in this chart). In relationship questions if a significator is close to the Sun which signifies the man she is after, she is obviously weakened by his manliness by being so close to the Sun (combust or under the Sun's beams), it's not necessarily a 'bad thing' in this case, just describing how she might feel about this man. A conjunction is still a yes as far as I am aware. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong!

Well, the Moon is also in the Via Combusta of the chart so that doesn't bode well either. And the conjunction is a seperating one, it might have been different if the moon was applying to the Sun. But either way, it looks to me that all the signs point to 'No'.

Thanks for all responds. I go along with this negative reading ; its not a
time for asking such a question. I will be late until 6 months for it.
I want asking only when Moon is at 15 42` 50 degree is that a Via Combusta too? And who is Mars what is he telling for me?

"Well, there is no sextile from the Moon to Saturn because the Moon will reach Mars before that aspect can complete so someone will frustrate your uniting together. Plus the Sun conjunct the Moon is usually a bad thing in horary. In my opinion the answer is 'No'."


I don't think the Moon applying sextile to Mars prior to completing its sextile to Saturn hinders or frustrates applying Moon sextile Saturn - unless you want to consider the Moon conjoining Mars a bad aspect (i.e. Moon square Mars which would indeed frustrate the Moon sextile Saturn).

Yet Moon-0- Mars does indicate the querent encounters a third person or entity immediately prior to the desired party. Probably a friend (Aries rules 11th) or less likely someone or something associated with your work (Scorpio on the 6th cusp). Do you have a friend or associate in common, or a group you are both interested in joining? What about Jupiter in Capricorn in the 7th . The Moon also contacts him before sextiling Saturn, and could show something mildly helpful.


I just don't know how disposed to romance An. would be when you do meet up with her, as An. is fairly Saturnian as saturn is in term, and in the sign of Venus' fall. You are more than a bit apprehensive or nervous with Moon in fall, yet with Moon in triplicity you feel 'lucky' or as though you can offer An. something. There are no receptions between Moon and Saturn , another reason why a deeper exchange is questionable. You may feel An. "coldness" so to speak.

Well, according to Lily for the matter to come to pass the two significators must apply AND perfect. If they don't perfect then the answer is No. When a significator reaches another planet before it reaches the other significator then that is literally called 'Frustration'. Say if they were going to perfect and then one turned retrograde before it could happen, that's called Refranation. All I was saying is that it looks like Mars is another person that's going to come before the querent and An would actually become a couple. I'm definitely not a leading expert in these questions so I could be wrong, but those are the rules I've learned to use.

I looked at a couple of different authors on frustration (Lehman and Jacobsen) and each had different definitions.. so i'm not saying your wrong, just that it may be a little confusing.

If someone has covered this before please 'net slap me

Jacobsen: SHA p. 85

" Frustration: When two significators are in an incomplete good aspect, but are interrupted by a 3rd planet's BAD aspect to either of them , the matter is HINDERED so than they are frustrated by the action of the 3rd person".

In this chart Moon would reach conj. to Mars first before Saturn's sextile , so its the querent perfecting the action. This would fit both Lilly and Jacobsen's depending upon the nature of the Moon/Mars aspect.

Lehman: MAHA p. 41

" Frustration: ... the Significators appear to be moving to perfection, but this time the slower moving planet achieves a partile aspect with a different body before the faster moving body catches up. Again this scenario shows hope until the person represented by the slower moving Significator goes off in a different direction"

The Moon conjoins Mars in ephemerides time before Saturn , the slower moving significator does.

Robert Hand gives this account: (from a lecture handout)

" Frustration: In some later writers frustration is a general term for all these conditions which block joining. However in Bonatti it is a more specific term. A seeks joining with B , but before A can be joined with planet B , planet B changes signs and is joined with planet C whose body and rays were in the earlier degree of the sign."

Obviously not the case here, thank god.

But Mars "doth receive" Moon verily.. this we know sure.javascript:emoticon(':lol:')

An. is a man, that is a abbreviation. We like each other for long ago but the circumstances always hinders ours love. Now I have a bf , but can`t stop think of Antoan. So may be the "Mars" shown the bf with who I am in the relationship now. Antoan is Plutonial type( Sun, Uranus,Mercury) he is secretive and passionate; "Cold" only to the surface. After 2 days he try to contact with me , nothing happens I couldn`t talk with him.
Maybe that explain something in the chart but I don`t know what to do with Scorpio guy. Really sorry for my low level in english grammar.