37 by johannes susato Gjiada wrote:I have Bezza "Commento al primo libro del tetrabiblos" and to me it seems it is talking about whatever aspect. He gives this example from Porphirius: Moon at 20 Scorpio, Saturn 10 Aquarius, Jupiter 25 Leo. Why do you think he is talking about conjunctions?Hi Margherita, 1. Because I didnt know all that you are telling me now 2. Becaues you spoke expressis verbis of conjunction only as you can read here: In my opinion what you are calling "monographic"(?) its partial conjunction. 3. Because your graphic is showing conjunction only 4. Because your graphics legend is showing conjunction only 5. Because you didnt mention the concrete example, which I didnt know at all until now You had written Moreover in Italian we don't have the word moiety, I cannot even translate in my mother tongue. And when I replied: And now I'm proud to present your Italian moiety (hoping the best for my dictionary!) to you: met? or mezzo . . . ? then your reaction: You will not believe me, but being an Italian I know my mother tongue a little better than you. And the word "met?" is not unknown to me, even it seems to you unbelievable. Its just that we have not an astrological technical word, as we dont have a word for "void of course". We should use a paraphrase, something like "half (met?) of the orb". In every case I should say that its not the first time people from abroad in the Internet try to teach me Italian, moreover very common words that children learn when they start to talk, its very strange for me. really appears a little strange to me. Johannes Quote Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:37 pm
38 by johannes susato Olivia wrote:And here? You see moiti? et moiti? in the shops all the time - it's something you put in coffee. Not what Dariot was writing about, I'm certain!Most certainly, Olivia. But, you see, the rim of the coffee cup is orbis-like round . . . (Lest we loose our focus!) Quote Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:36 pm
39 by margherita johannes susato wrote: really appears a little strange to me. Well, I'm sorry if I misunderstood your words. It's just as I wrote that it's not the first time people from abroad try to teach me Italian, which is a language I know quite well. I believed it was another case, but if I'm wrong no problem. Margherita Traditional astrology at http://heavenastrolabe.wordpress.com Quote Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:19 am
40 by johannes susato Gjiada wrote: Well, Im sorry if I misunderstood your words. believe me: You did! Well, I'm glad that our little problem seems to be resolved now. Thank you, Margherita! Johannes Quote Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:14 am
41 by Eddy Were the classical rules also applied in transits of planets? In modern astrology the orbs of transiting planets usually are tighter than those of the planets in the natal chart. Quote Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:52 am
42 by johannes susato Andrew wrote: 'Monographick' with its Greek meaning (monos - alone, single) would make sense in our context of focussing on only one orb (radius) of two applying or separating planets at a time. You're right! It seems to make perfect sense. A misprint in the AstroAmerica edition. See also: http://www.astrologiamedieval.com/Orbes.htm Please excuse my overlooking your agreement (fine!) and your link to Steven Birchfield's very interesting article! Quote Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:44 am
43 by Andrew Please excuse my overlooking your agreement (fine!) and your link to Steven Birchfield's very interesting article! AstroAmerica is usually accurate with its reprints. But on closer examination it looks like you're correct; it is indeed a misprint and the term should in fact be monographick, not menographick. Were the classical rules also applied in transits of planets? In modern astrology the orbs of transiting planets usually are tighter than those of the planets in the natal chart. Some traditional astrologers apply the moiety of the orbs of the planets, i.e. the full extension. So, for example, Jupiter or Saturn would have a transit orb-allowance of nine degrees. Quote Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:46 pm
44 by Eddy Andrew wrote:Were the classical rules also applied in transits of planets? In modern astrology the orbs of transiting planets usually are tighter than those of the planets in the natal chart. Some traditional astrologers apply the moiety of the orbs of the planets, i.e. the full extension. So, for example, Jupiter or Saturn would have a transit orb-allowance of nine degrees. Thanks Andrew. It might seem a bit wide but in case of Saturn transits I believe that they can work for quite a while after exactness, a sort of 'delayed explosives' effect. Quote Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:28 pm